MantisToboggan

Man, all this bashing of young folk/millennials/regional pilots, but more puerile behavior here than on their forums. Reality check, who gave out those participation trophies? Were kids giving them to each other in this alternate reality you've created where these trophies even exist? Or is your generation just terrible at raising kids to be functioning adults?

Man, it's easy to put down an entire generation. Maybe that's why your parents thought you were so terrible when you started listening to The Beetles. Time to retire

dawgdriver

Ignert.......

send a check

I guess you have some history with the Francophobe?? I must have wandered into some kind of love affair gone wrong. All that rage you have is for someone else. If you want to bring up Hitler on the one hand and have a plane with a Swastika on it, then you just go right ahead.

My mom was in Rotterdam during the war. Just yesterday we were looking at pictures of the May 14, 1940 bombing that killed 35,000. She remembers the HE-111’s coming in low and leveling the neighborhood behind her’s.

But yeah go ahead and just throw around the Fuhrer’s name. It’s cool!!!

I love the Do-335, the ME-109G, FW-190, TA-152, He-219, He 177 (fire prone junk wagon but cool looking), and the BV-238. 6 engines of sea going madness. How about the ME-323, FW 200C, He-290. I could do this all day.

Regionalsuck

What is wrong with that and why does it matter? He is following the rules the COMPANY provided if he is just a non-rev and not on A-pass/Company business. AA isn't the military and I would do the same on my own personal time, just like I do every time we buy business class tickets to go on vacation. I don't EVER wear shoes other than work required dress shoes that only get worn for company business or formal events. Some people despise wearing shoes or shaving on time off the clock unless absolutely necessary for some reason, and they don't give a crap if others approve of their relaxed beach wear lifestyle or not.

Have you seen the first class customers this century? One Piece Pajamas and oversized Mr-T Gold chains with furry bunny slippers to Professionals in Business Suits and EVERYTHING in between. Some of them are barefoot hippies with backpacks and have emotional support Turtles with custom painted neon glow in the dark shells. Flip Flops are well within the spectrum we get. I sat next to Samuel Jackson on AA in First one day when he was wearing his Addidas Flip flops and goofy hat. Maybe I should've pulled out my company badge, then kicked him off screaming there is no mother fricken flip flops on this mother fricken plane!

PRS Guitars

You’re exactly right...Helicopter parenting by boomers and even Gen Xers, the self esteem movement, and demasculinization of boys have created this problem.

FlyyGuyy

This times 1000.

I'm a millennial, but my parents didn't subscribe to the nonsense that others did. I can see the difference in my peers.

50SeatsofGrey

What do you expect when you have virtually zero selection process for flows? Do you know how easy it is to get hired at envoy/psa/Piedmont? It's pathetic. Half of the seniority list will be made up of these guys in 10 years. It won't be pretty. You will definitely be able to see a difference between AA and DL/UA/SW where you actually have to earn it.

PRS Guitars

Waiting with popcorn in hand for responses to this

RyanP

How hard was it for you to get hired at Air Wisconsin (according to your posts)? Did you really earn that one? Apparantly you're just another regional pilot from a different brand, so what makes you any less pathetic?

Personally, I felt pretty competitive and qualified when I "flowed" to AA over some unknown quantity street hire. Nobody gave me anything I didn't work for just as much as anyone else off the street. 5 type ratings, Check Airman, zero failures, volunteer time, years of 121 CA experience flying AA owned equipment and systems. Was hired initially as a lowly regional pilot with around 1500TT, 600 Multi, CFI,II,MEI, ATP. 3.9ish GPA. Have been a Captain on 3 different fleets. What more do you have to do to "earn" it these days?

I agree the Regional standards of hiring now are lower (across the board, certainly not just at Envoy/PSA/Piedmont) but nobody is flowing without making it though many years of check rides, 121 experience building and countless useful lessons learned along the way anyway. Flows in the future very shortly at Envoy won't be able to flow with any letters in their file, attendance or disciplinary issues etc which is a good thing for AA. Not sure about PSA and PDT. It's like a 6-10 year job interview you have to get through before you get here vs random off the street unknowns that AA has no inside knowledge of their history. AA can't ask previous employers of some random carrier the type of questions (that really need to be asked) about an employee being a good/bad employee because it's illegal. All they can do legally is verify dates of employment, position titles and PRIA records. AA can and does have the ability to see (everything) about a wholly owned pilots employment history though.

Military fighter guys with zero 121 experience, that have never even done this kind of flying are scooped up by AA with virtually no questions asked as fast as they can get them. Are they better suited for the job, did they earn it more? Highly debatable topic right there depending on which side of the fence you came from. Or how about a 10+yr regional pilot who does this same 121 job for years day in day out? Both put in the effort to get here in their own ways. It is what it is.

50SeatsofGrey

Settle down. My regional is no better than anyone else's, nor am I claiming to be better than anyone else. It's incredibly easy to get hired anywhere right now. A regional interview is incredibly easier than an actual AA interview.

I'm sure you're really sharp, but I really do believe that you should have to interview to advance to the next phase of the career. Not just be in the right place at the right time and throw an app in at a regional with the quickest flow. There are check airman at regionals with no flow who would be junior (if they are ever hired) to kids who entered the career way after them. By your own logic that experience alone is sufficient, these people who have been in the career longer deserve it more than some of the flows.

We're all regional pilots who have to take checkrides every year and try to stay out of trouble. That is literally the one thing that everyone has in common, it doesn't set you apart. Claiming that working for a regional is a 10 year interview is simply preposterous.