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Dobbs18 08-10-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2652456)
The trick (and it’s not well known).

SERIOUSLY, delete this!

PRS Guitars 08-10-2018 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Dobbs18 (Post 2652565)
SERIOUSLY, delete this!

I think the more people participating makes this work better, more trips turn green...aa73 correct me if I’m wrong on that.

I actually have permanent reminders on my phone of TTOT opening. I then sit in front of 2 computers and my iPad. In my current bid status though, it’s 6 to 9 minutes of actual movement and then watching paint dry.

450knotOffice 08-10-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2652661)
I think the more people participating makes this work better, more trips turn green...aa73 correct me if I’m wrong on that.

I actually have permanent reminders on my phone of TTOT opening. I then sit in front of 2 computers and my iPad. In my current bid status though, it’s 6 to 9 minutes of actual movement and then watching paint dry.

LOL, I had visions of Eric Cartman sitting in front of his computers in his mom's basement...

You're in my bid status, and I agree. 10 minutes and the show is over.

DawnPatrol 08-10-2018 03:59 PM

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My apologies if this is the wrong thread but looking for thoughts and insight from the group on next steps to make my flight experience more attractive to American.

Currently have the base minimums for United currently flying 135 on a Citation Excel. I have the opportunity to move to a much better paying Part 91/135 job on the same metal or go back to 121 on the Airbus with an ULCC. Have some 121 experience with a regional a few years back but no 121 TPIC.

Education - Master Degree, Military - No, Volunteer Work - Yes, Internal United Recommendations - 0, Job Fairs Attended - 0

Regionalsuck 08-10-2018 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by DawnPatrol (Post 2652816)
My apologies if this is the wrong thread but looking for thoughts and insight from the group on next steps to make my flight experience more attractive to American.

Currently have the base minimums for United currently flying 135 on a Citation Excel. I have the opportunity to move to a much better paying Part 91/135 job on the same metal or go back to 121 on the Airbus with an ULCC. Have some 121 experience with a regional a few years back but no 121 TPIC.

Education - Master Degree, Military - No, Volunteer Work - Yes, Internal United Recommendations - 0, Job Fairs Attended - 0

To be perfectly honest. You have 2 solid reliable options to get into AA if you're a male and non Military background. Join a guard unit, or go to a wholly owned regional with Flow. None of that flight experience really matters for AA right now. Thousands and thousands of people with 7,000-10,000 hours 121 or more, many are check airman, 121 TPIC, countless internal recs, they never hear a word from AA. It's such a long shot, the odds are astronomical to get in off the street outside of military or flow right now.

Currently out of classes of 80-90ish a month, they are almost all identical. Pretty close to half flow, half Military with maybe 5-7 straight off the street types per month out of that 80-90. Half or more of those 5-7 are generally females to add in some diversity to the classes so if you happen to be a male, you are realistically looking at competing for around 3-4 slots a month if you are lucky. Around 36-48 slots a year. That basically breaks down to the entire civilian population competing for 1 two week class worth of people a year. That's it.

Not to say you can't do it, but that is the reality of getting hired at AA right now outside of Military or Flow. Hours or types isn't cutting it right now. Unless you just get lucky.

My class of around 40 had 1 regional male and 2 regional Females I believe. Everyone else was Military or Flow. Most every class lately is pretty similar give or take a few off the street variances.

PRS Guitars 08-10-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2652694)
LOL, I had visions of Eric Cartman sitting in front of his computers in his mom's basement...

You're in my bid status, and I agree. 10 minutes and the show is over.

Ha! Nice! Better than Kyle’s Dad and the whole troll thing....:cool:

aa73 08-10-2018 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2652661)
I think the more people participating makes this work better, more trips turn green...aa73 correct me if I’m wrong on that.

I believe you are correct.

gzsg 08-13-2018 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2643698)
I’m trying to wrap my brain around the APA’s mentality of restricting pilots already on property to protect (or cause if you will) more future jobs. Examples include our inability to double dip after having a trip bought, IMAX, not being allowed to fly during vacation, etc. what is the purpose of this while we are hiring 6 to 900 a year? I completely get it if we aren’t hiring or have furloughed pilots.

Guys here preach about getting W2’s like SWA and DAL, but I don’t think we can earn like SWA with this mentality. And with my limited understanding of Delta’s “rolling thunder”, I don’t think that would fly here either. Maybe that’s why most here just care about pay rates, they don’t understand the mechanisms by which other airline pilots bolster their income...it’s not just profit sharing guys.

Also, we lose leverage by already restricting ourselves. We can’t exactly reduce our level of flying when it’s already low.

What am I missing? Thoughts?

Remember the items you mentioned will slow your upgrade and your position in category.

The right idea is to fly 75 hours and double your hourly rate. Take your vacation and enjoy your life.

Getting more radiation, dehydration and sleep deprivation is a poor idea.

PRS Guitars 08-13-2018 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2654296)
Remember the items you mentioned will slow your upgrade and your position in category.

The right idea is to fly 75 hours and double your hourly rate. Take your vacation and enjoy your life.

Getting more radiation, dehydration and sleep deprivation is a poor idea.

Good points from lots of folks (except Meyers:cool:) which is why I asked.

QuagmireGiggity 08-13-2018 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2652027)
I use both as well. What I’m getting at is people kept saying only 1 and 2 day trips get dropped. I have them and can’t drop them.

Do you have litesabre?


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