Questions on CLT Sim Instructor Job
05-29-2018, 08:16 AM
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Questions on CLT Sim Instructor Job
Hey, I saw an advertisement for CLT Sim Instructors and have some questions if someone knows about this.
I retired from USAirways upon recall from Furlough in 2007 and now I'm out on indefinite medical LOA from NetJets. I do not expect to get my medical back.
I was never able to hold Captain at the "Incredible Shrinking Airline". I was a July 1989 DOH and flew a bunch of different Jets, most my hours are in the 737 (2500) and A320 (1300). I did get a type rating in the 737 but not the A320. I have to say the Airbus was my favorite Jet since I'm a computer nerd
I got caught in the big furlough in January 2003.
I did hold Captain at Mesa (Jets for Jobs flow down) and I held Captain at NetJets for 10 of my 13 years there.
So the questions are: Do they require a medical for Sim Instructor? I saw under requirements you have to pass a checkride in the Jet you're going to teach in.
And how competitive are these Sim Jobs? Because of my career path I have zero instructor time. I flew C-130's in the USAF but when I upgraded to IP I was in a single aircraft unit with a special ops C-130 that we couldn't use for proficiency training. We had to borrow plain cargo C-130's when they RON'd at our base. So we didn't have any F/O's, everyone was PIC or better so I never got any IP time. Then I was hired at USAir in 1989 straight from the military. I only stayed at Mesa for 2 years then got on with NetJets where I've flown the CE-560 Ultra/Encore, Hawker 400, and Phenom 300.
I have around 15,000 total time, all but 200 is turbine. I live only 10 miles from the Sim Building at CLT so working there would be convenient. But I'm skeptical that I'd be competitive due to not having any Instructor experience.
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I retired from USAirways upon recall from Furlough in 2007 and now I'm out on indefinite medical LOA from NetJets. I do not expect to get my medical back.
I was never able to hold Captain at the "Incredible Shrinking Airline". I was a July 1989 DOH and flew a bunch of different Jets, most my hours are in the 737 (2500) and A320 (1300). I did get a type rating in the 737 but not the A320. I have to say the Airbus was my favorite Jet since I'm a computer nerd
I got caught in the big furlough in January 2003. I did hold Captain at Mesa (Jets for Jobs flow down) and I held Captain at NetJets for 10 of my 13 years there.
So the questions are: Do they require a medical for Sim Instructor? I saw under requirements you have to pass a checkride in the Jet you're going to teach in.
And how competitive are these Sim Jobs? Because of my career path I have zero instructor time. I flew C-130's in the USAF but when I upgraded to IP I was in a single aircraft unit with a special ops C-130 that we couldn't use for proficiency training. We had to borrow plain cargo C-130's when they RON'd at our base. So we didn't have any F/O's, everyone was PIC or better so I never got any IP time. Then I was hired at USAir in 1989 straight from the military. I only stayed at Mesa for 2 years then got on with NetJets where I've flown the CE-560 Ultra/Encore, Hawker 400, and Phenom 300.
I have around 15,000 total time, all but 200 is turbine. I live only 10 miles from the Sim Building at CLT so working there would be convenient. But I'm skeptical that I'd be competitive due to not having any Instructor experience.
Thanks
05-29-2018, 11:19 AM
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https://jobs.aa.com/job/Dallas-Fligh...201/463598800/
I don’t know about medical but it’s not listed as requirement. I’d guess it’s not required.
You’re more than qualified. Good luck.
I don’t know about medical but it’s not listed as requirement. I’d guess it’s not required.
You’re more than qualified. Good luck.
05-29-2018, 12:25 PM
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I think they would absolutely love to have you as a sim IP!
You have actual experience as an airline pilot. Every so often, they manage to snag a retired guy, but it's pretty rare. Most sim IPs are mechanics or agents who like to fly private planes (or used to do that.) Nothing wrong with them, but you'd definitely have a broader perspective and I think the department would benefit greatly from having someone like you.
You don't need a medical to do sim stuff. In fact, you don't need a pilot's license at all. Basic and Advanced instructor certificates are easy to get and can be granted to people who have never flown a plane-you just take the CFI written exam. It's total cake.
That's all you'd need, I'm pretty certain.
I'd definitely apply. Maybe even run by there one day and see if someone from the department will chat with you. I think someone with your experience would be a tremendous asset! As a pilot, I'd love to see all sim instructors have actual pilot experience. The perspective is definitely better.
You have actual experience as an airline pilot. Every so often, they manage to snag a retired guy, but it's pretty rare. Most sim IPs are mechanics or agents who like to fly private planes (or used to do that.) Nothing wrong with them, but you'd definitely have a broader perspective and I think the department would benefit greatly from having someone like you.
You don't need a medical to do sim stuff. In fact, you don't need a pilot's license at all. Basic and Advanced instructor certificates are easy to get and can be granted to people who have never flown a plane-you just take the CFI written exam. It's total cake.
That's all you'd need, I'm pretty certain.
I'd definitely apply. Maybe even run by there one day and see if someone from the department will chat with you. I think someone with your experience would be a tremendous asset! As a pilot, I'd love to see all sim instructors have actual pilot experience. The perspective is definitely better.
05-29-2018, 01:47 PM
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Travel to the interview and any subsequent relocation expenses are the responsibility of the candidate.
What a cheap ass company.
Brother in law just interviewed for a job, they paid for the first class airfare and hotel. Non aviation of course.
What a cheap ass company.
Brother in law just interviewed for a job, they paid for the first class airfare and hotel. Non aviation of course.
05-29-2018, 05:26 PM
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I'm surprised they don't have mainline retired guys lined up wanting those Sim jobs, especially if they live in base. At NetJets we have quite a few pilots over 65 who aren't ready to retire yet. I'm in my early 60's and after a year off I'm ready to get out of the house. My wife is especially ready for me to get out of the house 
Anyone have even a ballpark figure on the pay? My LTD from NetJets caps my other earnings at around $35K, then they reduce my LTD benefits by 50%. So anything I make over $35~K I'm working for half pay basically. If they have part time Instructor slots that'd probably work better for me.
Anyone have even a ballpark figure on the pay? My LTD from NetJets caps my other earnings at around $35K, then they reduce my LTD benefits by 50%. So anything I make over $35~K I'm working for half pay basically. If they have part time Instructor slots that'd probably work better for me.
Originally Posted by jcountry
I think they would absolutely love to have you as a sim IP!
You have actual experience as an airline pilot. Every so often, they manage to snag a retired guy, but it's pretty rare. Most sim IPs are mechanics or agents who like to fly private planes (or used to do that.) Nothing wrong with them, but you'd definitely have a broader perspective and I think the department would benefit greatly from having someone like you.
You don't need a medical to do sim stuff. In fact, you don't need a pilot's license at all. Basic and Advanced instructor certificates are easy to get and can be granted to people who have never flown a plane-you just take the CFI written exam. It's total cake.
That's all you'd need, I'm pretty certain.
I'd definitely apply. Maybe even run by there one day and see if someone from the department will chat with you. I think someone with your experience would be a tremendous asset! As a pilot, I'd love to see all sim instructors have actual pilot experience. The perspective is definitely better.
You have actual experience as an airline pilot. Every so often, they manage to snag a retired guy, but it's pretty rare. Most sim IPs are mechanics or agents who like to fly private planes (or used to do that.) Nothing wrong with them, but you'd definitely have a broader perspective and I think the department would benefit greatly from having someone like you.
You don't need a medical to do sim stuff. In fact, you don't need a pilot's license at all. Basic and Advanced instructor certificates are easy to get and can be granted to people who have never flown a plane-you just take the CFI written exam. It's total cake.
That's all you'd need, I'm pretty certain.
I'd definitely apply. Maybe even run by there one day and see if someone from the department will chat with you. I think someone with your experience would be a tremendous asset! As a pilot, I'd love to see all sim instructors have actual pilot experience. The perspective is definitely better.
05-29-2018, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
I'm surprised they don't have mainline retired guys lined up wanting those Sim jobs, especially if they live in base. At NetJets we have quite a few pilots over 65 who aren't ready to retire yet. I'm in my early 60's and after a year off I'm ready to get out of the house. My wife is especially ready for me to get out of the house
Anyone have even a ballpark figure on the pay? My LTD from NetJets caps my other earnings at around $35K, then they reduce my LTD benefits by 50%. So anything I make over $35~K I'm working for half pay basically. If they have part time Instructor slots that'd probably work better for me.
Anyone have even a ballpark figure on the pay? My LTD from NetJets caps my other earnings at around $35K, then they reduce my LTD benefits by 50%. So anything I make over $35~K I'm working for half pay basically. If they have part time Instructor slots that'd probably work better for me.
I bet they would.
I think Piedmont and PSA have training happening there as well. I bet any of those programs would be more than happy to see you!
05-29-2018, 06:06 PM
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AA's simP's, at least in DFW, are former airline pilots or retired military pilots.
I've meet ground school instructors who were mechanics, etc but I don't recall having a simP who didn't have a decent pilot resume.
I've meet ground school instructors who were mechanics, etc but I don't recall having a simP who didn't have a decent pilot resume.
05-30-2018, 02:15 PM
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I will retire soon from AA but I will be passing on the SimP positions. You will need to work 2 years to break 60K. 20 days a month and although it is a union position with a contract the hours suck and the schedule is subject to change. I would have to commute.
If I lived in base I might consider it but I cannot commute to CLT without a more stable schedule.
If I lived in base I might consider it but I cannot commute to CLT without a more stable schedule.
05-30-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
Not to thread drift, but we need to try to go back to FO sim instructors that are paid at what they can hold. Like Delta has and I think United as well, and LUS had.
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