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Old 08-09-2018, 12:40 PM   #21  
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Iím lolíing at all the guys who said itíd never be implemented. ďItís cheaper for them to pay the fine!Ē lolz
Does this help your RJ?
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Not true unless they return before 0159 or start after 0200...

The all night turns were one duty period, they are now two Ďdaysí paying ACD of 5:15 and maybe the 1:1.5 E rig. They will disappear into 3-4 day trips. The only time you might see them is in a broken 31xxx sequence paying 10:30. If that goes to PM... $$$$$


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Arenít they just one? And that rig is only if they sign in after 2200?
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Iím too senior to fly those peasant slash trips.
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Is there a source for this info or is this speculation?


Itís in the AIP. Not sure what else youíre asking.
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Your response seemed like an opinion. The agreement with the company seemed light on details and what you provided I hadnít seen before. For instance overnight turns werenít specifically addressed in the agreement language. The little official communication we got on this seemed to be a sales job by our base reps. Thereís still a lot of unknowns because we havenít seen the sequences, supposed extra days off or additional pay yet. Thatís why I asked.
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Buzz,

The all night turns are one duty period, and the AIP specifically states that we are going away from duty periods to Ďdaysí in consideration to pay. These days are from 0200-0159, so therefore any duty period that spans these days are paid an average of 5:15. So the DFW-LAS turn that duties in at 2250 and ends at 0515 now pays 10:30 per the AIP. The company wonít do that, so I am speculating that they will incorporate these sequences in trips that are longer than two days.

Also, other trips (WB rockets from MIA/DFW to SA specifically that pay 11 to 14 hours will now all pay 15:45 and LAX/PHX - Hawaii) will see better pay for the duty. These are also two duty periods but barely span three Ďdaysí per the AIP (day one 2250 duty in with a return of 0600 day three in the South American rockets example).

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