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Old 08-09-2018, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
I’m lol’ing at all the guys who said it’d never be implemented. “It’s cheaper for them to pay the fine!” lolz
Does this help your RJ?
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheddar View Post
Not true unless they return before 0159 or start after 0200...

The all night turns were one duty period, they are now two ‘days’ paying ACD of 5:15 and maybe the 1:1.5 E rig. They will disappear into 3-4 day trips. The only time you might see them is in a broken 31xxx sequence paying 10:30. If that goes to PM... $$$$$


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Aren’t they just one? And that rig is only if they sign in after 2200?
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:52 AM
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I’m too senior to fly those peasant slash trips.
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:59 PM
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Is there a source for this info or is this speculation?


It’s in the AIP. Not sure what else you’re asking.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:19 PM
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Your response seemed like an opinion. The agreement with the company seemed light on details and what you provided I hadn’t seen before. For instance overnight turns weren’t specifically addressed in the agreement language. The little official communication we got on this seemed to be a sales job by our base reps. There’s still a lot of unknowns because we haven’t seen the sequences, supposed extra days off or additional pay yet. That’s why I asked.
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:17 PM
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Buzz,

The all night turns are one duty period, and the AIP specifically states that we are going away from duty periods to ‘days’ in consideration to pay. These days are from 0200-0159, so therefore any duty period that spans these days are paid an average of 5:15. So the DFW-LAS turn that duties in at 2250 and ends at 0515 now pays 10:30 per the AIP. The company won’t do that, so I am speculating that they will incorporate these sequences in trips that are longer than two days.

Also, other trips (WB rockets from MIA/DFW to SA specifically that pay 11 to 14 hours will now all pay 15:45 and LAX/PHX - Hawaii) will see better pay for the duty. These are also two duty periods but barely span three ‘days’ per the AIP (day one 2250 duty in with a return of 0600 day three in the South American rockets example).

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