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Old 09-02-2018, 06:47 PM   #1  
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A few questions:

1) The retirement has been pushed back from 2019 to 2020, right? But latest official word is that they are still out of the fleet by the end of 2020?

2) Have there been any serious E2 rumors? Delta has its A220s coming, increasingly serious E2-195 rumblings at UAL... Just wondering if there might be a last minute reversal and significant order for a bunch of E2 planes (and possibly the much larger E2-195 at that).

3) Anyone know why the E190s were exclusively put in PHL? It seems that CLT, for example, could have really used them on more routes and to more markets. There's obviously a gap between the 319s and the CRJ900s that just isn't well served.

[Full disclosure: The regional carrier I fly for will very likely pick up CRJ-900 flying where and when the E190s diminish. Not proud of that, but that's what AAL management is choosing to do. I'm asking these questions because they influence base growth and possibly my progression in base seniority at my regional. Have to consider PHL because I'm being forced to upgrade and forced out of my domicile after our MEC threw senior FOs under the bus at my regional...]

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Old 09-02-2018, 08:48 PM   #2  
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A few questions:

1) The retirement has been pushed back from 2019 to 2020, right? But latest official word is that they are still out of the fleet by the end of 2020?

2) Have there been any serious E2 rumors? Delta has its A220s coming, increasingly serious E2-195 rumblings at UAL... Just wondering if there might be a last minute reversal and significant order for a bunch of E2 planes (and possibly the much larger E2-195 at that).

3) Anyone know why the E190s were exclusively put in PHL? It seems that CLT, for example, could have really used them on more routes and to more markets. There's obviously a gap between the 319s and the CRJ900s that just isn't well served.

[Full disclosure: The regional carrier I fly for will very likely pick up CRJ-900 flying where and when the E190s diminish. Not proud of that, but that's what AAL management is choosing to do. I'm asking these questions because they influence base growth and possibly my progression in base seniority at my regional. Have to consider PHL because I'm being forced to upgrade and forced out of my domicile after our MEC threw senior FOs under the bus at my regional...]

Latest official word is 6 leave 1st Q 2020, the other 14 remain until last Q.

There are lots of rumors. Until the news hits Wall Street, that is all they are.

PHL is a good hub for the Shuttle ops the 190 has flown for years is my guess. The route network for the 190 will not expand, that is pretty much definite.

On a personal note, I see a gap that the E2 could fill nicely and hope it happens. I think 60 would be a good number. But having said that, I always miss the calls from Doug.
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One of Embraer’s “Profit Hunter” E-190 E2’s was parked at DFW on Monday night / Tuesday. A spotter buddy of mine tracked it, and the DFW Airport FB page had pictures.

Sales pitch? Refuel/rest? I dunno.

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Dollar store Doug will try to get us to pay for a new order. That’s why the retirement is being push back right when our contact negotiations heat up. Some might bite but hopefully our guys see the big picture and realizes management’s decision doesn’t hinge on us...they are just hoping we’ll bite.
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Dollar store Doug will try to get us to pay for a new order. That’s why the retirement is being push back right when our contact negotiations heat up. Some might bite but hopefully our guys see the big picture and realizes management’s decision doesn’t hinge on us...they are just hoping we’ll bite.
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Absolutely! No scope relief! If anything tighten it!
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One of Embraer’s “Profit Hunter” E-190 E2’s was parked at DFW on Monday night / Tuesday. A spotter buddy of mine tracked it, and the DFW Airport FB page had pictures.

Sales pitch? Refuel/rest? I dunno.

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It hit other airline hubs too. I saw FLL and DEN I believe as well.
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It hit other airline hubs too. I saw FLL and DEN I believe as well.
United pitch in Denver and a Spirit pitch in Fort Lauderdale maybe
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United pitch in Denver and a Spirit pitch in Fort Lauderdale maybe
Or maybe Frontier in Denver.
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It hit other airline hubs too. I saw FLL and DEN I believe as well.
Before DFW it was spotted at Boeing Field and then at SEA.

Maybe Boeing is considering buying the company? And Alaska is a potential customer?? Purely speculation.
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