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10-13-2018, 01:12 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by LIOG41
So rather than harping on our severely inflexible trip trading, who can we get in touch with in changing this crap or at least get a reason for the lack of green trips? Maybe a company contact?
10-13-2018, 10:08 PM
#23
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Hey guys I’m a fairly new LH here. I understand TTOT is trading w the company for something currently in open time via aapilots. How/where is TTS done? I’ve always heard that we have 2 ways to modify our schedule but didn’t know the second. Lastly when we do something in LS, which system is it using?
10-14-2018, 04:27 AM
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TTS is a system where you enter generic search/trade criteria and it runs twice a day. 8AM and 8PM?
TTOT is a manual system. You enter a trade request for your trip A and it sees if there’s a trip you can trade for.
TTOT is a manual system. You enter a trade request for your trip A and it sees if there’s a trip you can trade for.
10-14-2018, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunfish FAIP
Hey guys I’m a fairly new LH here. I understand TTOT is trading w the company for something currently in open time via aapilots. How/where is TTS done? I’ve always heard that we have 2 ways to modify our schedule but didn’t know the second. Lastly when we do something in LS, which system is it using?
In theory TTS is better because it allows multiple trade partners (ewww...) but I've never been able to get it to work for me. Probably because LS is sucking up all the good stuff. The company should just put TTS in the grave and reimburse us or purchase LS for us to use. It's absolutely incredible that a single guy can make a more useful program than a 120,000 employee company can figure out to just purchase.
10-14-2018, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
No one. There's nothing in the JCBA to support this and Crew Scheduling Management (one manager in particular) lives to make our lives worse. It's like she gets off on it.
Just the fact that Spirit (!) has a better trip trading contract makes me wonder about APA.
10-14-2018, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
I don't have LS but I believe it uses TTOT. I dropped a trip last week and it was gone within a few seconds. LS is an automatic thing, it continually checks online.
In theory TTS is better because it allows multiple trade partners (ewww...) but I've never been able to get it to work for me. Probably because LS is sucking up all the good stuff. The company should just put TTS in the grave and reimburse us or purchase LS for us to use. It's absolutely incredible that a single guy can make a more useful program than a 120,000 employee company can figure out to just purchase.
In theory TTS is better because it allows multiple trade partners (ewww...) but I've never been able to get it to work for me. Probably because LS is sucking up all the good stuff. The company should just put TTS in the grave and reimburse us or purchase LS for us to use. It's absolutely incredible that a single guy can make a more useful program than a 120,000 employee company can figure out to just purchase.
I’m pretty sure TTS is seniority based. It’s really a completely different system from TTOT. It just doesn’t work well bc there isn’t much open time and not a lot of people use it so there’s not enough to prime it.
10-14-2018, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by riel39
How do you pick up the trips that guys have posted for drop (below the line in N4D), without LS? Thanks in advance.
Get the APA app. Pretty straight forward. You can test-run a trade to see if you are legal for it.
10-14-2018, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
Time for a soundoff or whatever it's called. I wonder if the prima donnas in D are even aware of this issue.
Just the fact that Spirit (!) has a better trip trading contract makes me wonder about APA.
Just the fact that Spirit (!) has a better trip trading contract makes me wonder about APA.
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