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EMBFlyer 11-13-2018 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2707675)
I just learned on C&R that a DAL group 4 CA is projected to make 7 figures and a Group 2 FO $480k. I don’t care how good our IMAX system is it’s not that good. The sad thing is DAL has significantly fewer total aircraft, fewer Gr4 aircraft, and they have more pilots on property. So clearly IMAX isn’t the big jobs creator either. I hope our negotiating committee is paying attention.
Was the post proceeded by the flame emoji and did it contain the words: "The SCAM on the APA Pilots intensifies!!"?

Laker24 11-13-2018 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 2707752)
Was the post proceeded by the flame emoji and did it contain the words: "The SCAM on the APA Pilots intensifies!!"?
No. It was from a captain who is friends with one of the delta negotiating committee members. I know it’s hard for many at AA to believe but DAL runs circles around us in terms of compensation.

As to ‘the admiral’ he is annoying but he’s right. We are working at a large discount.

bigscrillywilli 11-13-2018 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by Varks (Post 2707478)
Chasing pay chaps my ass. Two out of the last three times I have rightfully put in RFDs I have not been paid. I save the EDCT on the PDC to prove I should be paid. Send in the direct connect and in one case denied. Guess I’ll push on time and time out next time this comes up. It’s really starting to frustrate me. This pay stuff is done by hand still. Amazing.
Why can’t FOs certain pay-claims?? Total BS as far as I’m concerned!

mainlineAF 11-13-2018 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2707675)
I just learned on C&R that a DAL group 4 CA is projected to make 7 figures and a Group 2 FO $480k. I don’t care how good our IMAX system is it’s not that good. The sad thing is DAL has significantly fewer total aircraft, fewer Gr4 aircraft, and they have more pilots on property. So clearly IMAX isn’t the big jobs creator either. I hope our negotiating committee is paying attention.


While delta is certainly well ahead of us those 2 guys are total outliers.

Probably super senior, live in base, open time hoes.

Laker24 11-13-2018 03:50 PM
True. But Delta captains can easily exceed 400k with a little extra effort. Widebody captains 500+. The only Group 2 AA CA I know who made 400+ was a chief pilot.

Name User 11-13-2018 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2707675)
I just learned on C&R that a DAL group 4 CA is projected to make 7 figures and a Group 2 FO $480k. I don’t care how good our IMAX system is it’s not that good. The sad thing is DAL has significantly fewer total aircraft, fewer Gr4 aircraft, and they have more pilots on property. So clearly IMAX isn’t the big jobs creator either. I hope our negotiating committee is paying attention.
Pilots are the only major unionized group at Delta. It gives them a lot more flexibility with their work force. More for the pilots to take. We have to pay rampers $80,000 a year, Delta pays $10-$12/hr.

One of the biggest problems the mtc guys are having is being associated with the "fleet service" folks in the same union. It would be like if the FAs were part of APA and voted on our contract together. There are more of them so what they want to happen will. And the jobs come with vastly different education requirements.

EMBFlyer 11-13-2018 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2707766)
No. It was from a captain who is friends with one of the delta negotiating committee members. I know it’s hard for many at AA to believe but DAL runs circles around us in terms of compensation.

As to ‘the admiral’ he is annoying but he’s right. We are working at a large discount.
My post was tongue-in-cheek. And yes, while he's annoying and spams a lot, he's in tune.

Laker24 11-13-2018 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2707886)
Pilots are the only major unionized group at Delta. It gives them a lot more flexibility with their work force. More for the pilots to take. We have to pay rampers $80,000 a year, Delta pays $10-$12/hr.

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Who cares? That’s not our problem. AAL is making BILLIONS. We can afford to pay DAL/UAL/SWA/UPS compensation. Does AAL get a discount on fuel, aircraft, landing fees, etc because we pay our rampers too much? The only group who might be convinced to take less than industry standard during times of historic profitability are pilots.

QuagmireGiggity 11-14-2018 04:13 AM
Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 2707907)
My post was tongue-in-cheek. And yes, while he's annoying and spams a lot, he's in tune.
True. I'm always a bit perplexed at the hate for him.

R57 relay 11-14-2018 04:43 AM
Originally Posted by QuagmireGiggity (Post 2708016)
True. I'm always a bit perplexed at the hate for him.
I don't hate him and I don't have him blocked, but he often puts out bad info and sometimes flat our lies. When called on it he just ignores it and continues. I wouldn't believe him that the sun came up this morning without confirmation.


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