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Old 12-11-2018, 08:17 AM
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I’m thinking average day pay is selling ourselves short. Just saying.
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and? Present thou argument.
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I’m thinking average day pay is selling ourselves short. Just saying.
If you’re gonna argue something at least be clear about it. Do you dislike average duty day or average calendar day pay?

From there, please proceed.

I’m very thankful that we no longer have average duty day anymore. It was embarrassing that we had 10 day off per month lines built at a legacy.
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If you’re gonna argue something at least be clear about it. Do you dislike average duty day or average calendar day pay?

From there, please proceed.

I’m very thankful that we no longer have average duty day anymore. It was embarrassing that we had 10 day off per month lines built at a legacy.
I think he means he’s for just a straight minimum day. No “average” anything.

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3 day trip:
Day 1: 8hrs
Day 2: 0hrs
Day 3: 8hrs

ACD credits 16:00. [True]Min Cal Day credits 21:15.
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Average calendar day is better than what we had. Minimum day is superior. I believe they have that at FedEx. It would drive a lot more hiring than our antiquated IMAX system. Whether or not the negotiating committee will ask for or deliver a minimum day is the big question.
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Average calendar day is better than what we had. Minimum day is superior. I believe they have that at FedEx. It would drive a lot more hiring than our antiquated IMAX system. Whether or not the negotiating committee will ask for or deliver a minimum day is the big question.


Fedex has a min day but i believe it’s based on 24 hours, not calendar days.

So if you leave at noon on Monday and get back at noon on Tuesday it would pay 6 hours.

Under our current ACD that trip would pay 10:30
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Good to know. So our system would probably actually work better for a mostly domestic operation.
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Fedex has a min day but i believe it’s based on 24 hours, not calendar days.

So if you leave at noon on Monday and get back at noon on Tuesday it would pay 6 hours.

Under our current ACD that trip would pay 10:30


Indeed. It’s structured around the hub turns. I peeked at their contract some time ago and I wanna say the clock ran around 2am hub turns or something. Explain our 10:30 redeye turns to a FedEx guy and you’ll have to help them pick up their jaw. They’d love that.
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Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
I think he means he’s for just a straight minimum day. No “average” anything.

Edit...

3 day trip:
Day 1: 8hrs
Day 2: 0hrs
Day 3: 8hrs

ACD credits 16:00. [True]Min Cal Day credits 21:15.

Exactly. In this case the current system is worth nothing.

The 5 days trips are perfect examples.
The current rig means we get nothing for the 24 hour sit.
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Exactly. In this case the current system is worth nothing.



The 5 days trips are perfect examples.

The current rig means we get nothing for the 24 hour sit.


You’re getting 26:15 for a 5 day trip with an early release on day 5. That’s hardly nothing.

That’s not saying that minimum calendar day wouldn’t be much better. It would. But our rigs are currently industry standard.
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