Suicides
01-14-2019, 06:30 AM
#1
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Suicides
We are rapidly approaching the spring time when we seem to have an uptick in Pilots taking their own lives. Last spring we had 7 in a 90 day period (stated in human factors class). I know this forum may not be the place to air our troubles but how else will people know. Someone brought the subject up on another thread. APA and the AA are Trying but it isn’t helping enough. No one will give exact numbers but I know it is way more than people realize. We peaked at 32 (heard that number from someone who had a close friend take their own life) in one year when the morale was at its lowest around ten years ago. Awareness is the only way people will know or be on the look out for signs. I apologize if anyone is offended by me bringing this up. Something has to be done. Get help please. Call the wingman.
01-14-2019, 10:46 AM
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This is a decent article on why there is an uptick in spring months.
Please keep your eyes and ears out. Always help where you can, and if you (myself included) need help don’t be afraid to ask. We are human and we need help sometimes. There is nothing wrong about asking for help.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/grand-rounds/201505/april-and-may-and-probably-june-is-the-cruelest-month%3famp
Please keep your eyes and ears out. Always help where you can, and if you (myself included) need help don’t be afraid to ask. We are human and we need help sometimes. There is nothing wrong about asking for help.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/grand-rounds/201505/april-and-may-and-probably-june-is-the-cruelest-month%3famp
01-14-2019, 02:54 PM
#4
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Posts: 379
Originally Posted by Varks
We are rapidly approaching the spring time when we seem to have an uptick in Pilots taking their own lives. Last spring we had 7 in a 90 day period (stated in human factors class). I know this forum may not be the place to air our troubles but how else will people know. Someone brought the subject up on another thread. APA and the AA are Trying but it isn’t helping enough. No one will give exact numbers but I know it is way more than people realize. We peaked at 32 (heard that number from someone who had a close friend take their own life) in one year when the morale was at its lowest around ten years ago. Awareness is the only way people will know or be on the look out for signs. I apologize if anyone is offended by me bringing this up. Something has to be done. Get help please. Call the wingman.
01-14-2019, 03:18 PM
#5
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,876
Nobody likes to talk about this but...
Any DL/UAL/AS/SWA/FDX/UPS/Spirit/Allegiant/Frontier guys want to chime in?
I’m wondering if our numbers are drastically different from others or this is just a nasty part of the industry?
Any DL/UAL/AS/SWA/FDX/UPS/Spirit/Allegiant/Frontier guys want to chime in?
I’m wondering if our numbers are drastically different from others or this is just a nasty part of the industry?
01-14-2019, 04:30 PM
#7
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Position: AA A320
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
I have no doubt that the FAA shows almost no tolerance for almost everything would be a factor in this as well. If someone wants to search out help there is a huge repercussion possibility stopping them, loss of medical.
01-14-2019, 04:34 PM
#8
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 421
Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
APA has a special group of people that help with just this issue. It is confidential and not reported to the FAA. For those not at AA, it is called Project Wingman. It is available to union members and their families.
Thats great AA has a program for this type of issue.
I am corporate so was unaware.
01-14-2019, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KiloAlpha
APA has a special group of people that help with just this issue. It is confidential and not reported to the FAA. For those not at AA, it is called Project Wingman. It is available to union members and their families.
01-14-2019, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Nobody likes to talk about this but...
Any DL/UAL/AS/SWA/FDX/UPS/Spirit/Allegiant/Frontier guys want to chime in?
I’m wondering if our numbers are drastically different from others or this is just a nasty part of the industry?
Any DL/UAL/AS/SWA/FDX/UPS/Spirit/Allegiant/Frontier guys want to chime in?
I’m wondering if our numbers are drastically different from others or this is just a nasty part of the industry?
