APA vs ALPA
01-29-2019, 07:55 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by AAL24
If ALPA plays favorites with larger groups you shouldn’t be worried. AA has the second largest pilot group in the industry and would be a huge gain for ALPA. The truth is we’ve been lagging ALPA carriers for a while now and APA doesn’t appear to be capable of closing the gap.
01-29-2019, 08:24 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by AAL24
If ALPA plays favorites with larger groups you shouldn’t be worried. AA has the second largest pilot group in the industry and would be a huge gain for ALPA. The truth is we’ve been lagging ALPA carriers for a while now and APA doesn’t appear to be capable of closing the gap.
It’s hard to compare apples to apples just using pay. It’s the little details you are missing. And yes, I’m also a scorned ex-ALPA member....so it’s hard for me to believe any of the positive stuff coming from supporters.
01-29-2019, 08:31 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by MySaabStory
Its not all about pay. I compared a few workrules with a buddy of mine at United and I can tell you some of ours are a lot better.
It’s hard to compare apples to apples just using pay. It’s the little details you are missing. And yes, I’m also a scorned ex-ALPA member....so it’s hard for me to believe any of the positive stuff coming from supporters.
It’s hard to compare apples to apples just using pay. It’s the little details you are missing. And yes, I’m also a scorned ex-ALPA member....so it’s hard for me to believe any of the positive stuff coming from supporters.
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01-29-2019, 09:07 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by MySaabStory
Its not all about pay. I compared a few workrules with a buddy of mine at United and I can tell you some of ours are a lot better.
It’s hard to compare apples to apples just using pay. It’s the little details you are missing. And yes, I’m also a scorned ex-ALPA member....so it’s hard for me to believe any of the positive stuff coming from supporters.
It’s hard to compare apples to apples just using pay. It’s the little details you are missing. And yes, I’m also a scorned ex-ALPA member....so it’s hard for me to believe any of the positive stuff coming from supporters.
01-29-2019, 09:09 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by B757200ER
I'm not disagreeing with your post, good and salient points. But, who is the largest group?
01-29-2019, 09:14 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by AAL24
Delta has the largest pilot group now. They pulled ahead of AA in 2018. AAL is still the largest airline but due to our sub standard work rules we can crew a bigger airline with fewer pilots. Also Delta has much more long haul 2CA/2FO flying. Parked and Vasu prefer to farm out the long haul stuff to our JV partners. 321s feeding Qantas 380s.
01-29-2019, 09:18 AM
#38
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Ummmmmm, you might want to look at the DAL WB flying (excluding 757s). They have been decimated by JV partnerships.
DAL, UAL and to an extent many of the smaller 121 carriers have varying degrees of great QWL rules. Our are substandard as a whole, but we do have things other carriers don’t.
Overall, we need a contract and union that is best setup for the management we have. Not someone else’s good enough ideas.
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DAL, UAL and to an extent many of the smaller 121 carriers have varying degrees of great QWL rules. Our are substandard as a whole, but we do have things other carriers don’t.
Overall, we need a contract and union that is best setup for the management we have. Not someone else’s good enough ideas.
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01-29-2019, 09:22 AM
#39
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Take a look at our JV language and get back to us. It’s literally one paragraph. Zero restrictions to the company. They could start a joint venture tomorrow and give 100% of the new flying to our JV partner.
Both UAL and DAL have a larger percentage of international flying. United by a wide margin.
Both UAL and DAL have a larger percentage of international flying. United by a wide margin.
01-29-2019, 09:36 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by Cheddar
Ummmmmm, you might want to look at the DAL WB flying (excluding 757s). They have been decimated by JV partnerships.
AAL24----are you referring to Vasu Raja, VP-Planning? Is that the guy who thinks serving Savoy,IL Durango,CO and Asheville,NC is more important than Shanghai, Beijing and Tokyo?
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