Hybrid days.
11-16-2018, 09:08 AM
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Hybrid days.
Can I get a little schooling on getting a Hybrid schedule?
Do I get to pick the days?
Is it long call? Short call?
What time will I be on call?
Can I be given a 6 day trip?
What is the credit if any for a hybrid day?
Do I get to pick the days?
Is it long call? Short call?
What time will I be on call?
Can I be given a 6 day trip?
What is the credit if any for a hybrid day?
11-16-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
Can I get a little schooling on getting a Hybrid schedule?
Do I get to pick the days?
You get to pick them. email the base planner with your desired days. What I did was put a hybrid day on a day before an early sign in or put on a day after a late arrival (after 2200 release if able). If you want a string of hybrid days try to put them on days that have low open time probability (weekdays etc) The reason for before an early sign in or after a late arrival is it makes you somewhat illegal for quite a few trips that may get awarded based on crew rest requirements
Is it long call? Short call?
Not really either, you are assigned during DOTC for the next days flying like a LC but you are called before a LC/SC gets used
What time will I be on call?
you are assigned before reserves for your hybrid day
Can I be given a 6 day trip?
I suppose if you pick 6-days all lumped together.
What is the credit if any for a hybrid day?
I will get the semantics wrong but bear with me. You take your DACV for the trips you were assigned and that is what your hybrid days are worth.
Do I get to pick the days?
You get to pick them. email the base planner with your desired days. What I did was put a hybrid day on a day before an early sign in or put on a day after a late arrival (after 2200 release if able). If you want a string of hybrid days try to put them on days that have low open time probability (weekdays etc) The reason for before an early sign in or after a late arrival is it makes you somewhat illegal for quite a few trips that may get awarded based on crew rest requirements
Is it long call? Short call?
Not really either, you are assigned during DOTC for the next days flying like a LC but you are called before a LC/SC gets used
What time will I be on call?
you are assigned before reserves for your hybrid day
Can I be given a 6 day trip?
I suppose if you pick 6-days all lumped together.
What is the credit if any for a hybrid day?
I will get the semantics wrong but bear with me. You take your DACV for the trips you were assigned and that is what your hybrid days are worth.
Feel free to PM me your number and we can chat via phone. Hybrid days can really work in your favor if done right.
(any one feel free to correct or amplify as necessary)
11-16-2018, 04:26 PM
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This month I got 7 hybrid days and declined them all. I was supposed to have training (it got cancelled), and they gave me 1 trip. I picked up 2 trips from other pilots that had them posted for drop - one 3 day and one 4 day. My PPROJ is at 83 hours. I couldn't be happier with the results - I got the trips I wanted, out of the co-terminal airport I wanted, on the days I wanted to work. My thought process is - they may not give you the hybrid days on the days you want (you can still drop them if you don't like the days), then you might have to fly a crappy trip, out of a co-terminal airport you don't want to go to, or with someone you may not want to fly with. Being able to pick up whatever you want, whenever you want has a nice sense of freedom and flexibility to it.
11-16-2018, 04:37 PM
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There's a chart on bid sheet that says how much a day is worth for pay.
Here's the page for hybrid info.
https://aapilots.aa.com/private/pbs/...ntent_id=62007
Here's the page for hybrid info.
https://aapilots.aa.com/private/pbs/...ntent_id=62007
11-16-2018, 08:48 PM
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Couple other things to note.
You have no obligation to work hybrids... they can be dropped, obviously w no pay.
For purposes of the contract, you are a line holder, therefore you can pickup and drop trips and participate in TT/TTS/TTOT. It may be more desirable to choose trips of your liking rather than participate in the roulette wheel of DOTC (particularly if you commute).
Go to APA Compass page. Lots of good resources there.
Disclaimer: I’ve never had a hybrid line.
You have no obligation to work hybrids... they can be dropped, obviously w no pay.
For purposes of the contract, you are a line holder, therefore you can pickup and drop trips and participate in TT/TTS/TTOT. It may be more desirable to choose trips of your liking rather than participate in the roulette wheel of DOTC (particularly if you commute).
Go to APA Compass page. Lots of good resources there.
Disclaimer: I’ve never had a hybrid line.
11-17-2018, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by OVBIII
What I did was put a hybrid day on a day before an early sign in or put on a day after a late arrival (after 2200 release if able).
Is it long call? Short call?
Not really either, you are assigned during DOTC for the next days flying like a LC but you are called before a LC/SC gets used
What time will I be on call?
Can I be given a 6 day trip?
What is the credit if any for a hybrid day?
PBS LOA - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Compass Project file on Hybrid days - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Compass Project Index - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
11-17-2018, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint
You can't do this. Hybrids are supposed to be placed after a DO. If you pick up anything the day before a hybrid that arrives after 1700, it will be considered in conflict with the hybrid day and it will drop the entire block.
Well I have done said tactic
It's neither. You are a lineholder who is assigned during DOTC the day prior. Hybrid days are assigned after RO, before Makeup, Transitional Reserve, and all normal reserves.
You're required to be contactable during DOTC the day prior to your hybrid and you're required to check your schedule at 1500 the day before your hybrid day.
Important point here - if you have DOs on your schedule after your hybrid day(s), you can be assigned into those days as FOS doesn't see them as anything other than a blank space. You need to place 24s after your hybrid days to prevent FOS from searching you as legal. If you had two hybrid days followed by four DOs, FOS will search you as legal for six days.
They are worth the Daily Average Credit Value (DACV) for your bid status in that month. You will be paid the greater of the value of the days or the value of the trip(s) you fly.
PBS LOA - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Compass Project file on Hybrid days - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Compass Project Index - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Well I have done said tactic
It's neither. You are a lineholder who is assigned during DOTC the day prior. Hybrid days are assigned after RO, before Makeup, Transitional Reserve, and all normal reserves.
You're required to be contactable during DOTC the day prior to your hybrid and you're required to check your schedule at 1500 the day before your hybrid day.
Important point here - if you have DOs on your schedule after your hybrid day(s), you can be assigned into those days as FOS doesn't see them as anything other than a blank space. You need to place 24s after your hybrid days to prevent FOS from searching you as legal. If you had two hybrid days followed by four DOs, FOS will search you as legal for six days.
They are worth the Daily Average Credit Value (DACV) for your bid status in that month. You will be paid the greater of the value of the days or the value of the trip(s) you fly.
PBS LOA - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Compass Project file on Hybrid days - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
Compass Project Index - https://www.alliedpilots.org/LinkCli...%3d&portalid=0
11-17-2018, 09:11 AM
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Thanks for the responses.
I’ve read the cover sheet regarding Hybrid days. I think I’ll stick to the 48 hours I got assigned. And pick up a trip on my days off.
Figure I’ll be better off making my own schedule than being on an enhanced version of reserve. Worst case is I get paid 48 hours for the month. I have the first two weeks free of December.
The cover sheet says to call or email the base coordinator prior to Nov 22nd to accept or deny hybrid days.
How do I find out who that person is?
That would have been a nice thing to see on the cover sheet.
I’ve read the cover sheet regarding Hybrid days. I think I’ll stick to the 48 hours I got assigned. And pick up a trip on my days off.
Figure I’ll be better off making my own schedule than being on an enhanced version of reserve. Worst case is I get paid 48 hours for the month. I have the first two weeks free of December.
The cover sheet says to call or email the base coordinator prior to Nov 22nd to accept or deny hybrid days.
How do I find out who that person is?
That would have been a nice thing to see on the cover sheet.
11-18-2018, 08:58 PM
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Is there any way to request a hybrid line? Or is it just assigned to you? I’m pretty miffed that guys junior to me were awarded hybrid lines with Christmas, New Years, etc. off, while I’m stuck working those days even though I am senior to them and bid for them off. What’s the deal?
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