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GodIsGood 03-13-2019 11:02 AM

Trump banned all 737 Max flights.
 
Just announced all Max aircraft have been grounded.

BarrySeal 03-13-2019 11:06 AM

incredible

awax 03-13-2019 11:08 AM

And he went on to say:

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baronbvp 03-13-2019 11:14 AM

That’s a lot of quotes bro

fortyeight 03-13-2019 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2781570)
Then Trump comes along in his usual “bull in a china shop” way, ignoring all reasoning and expert opinions, and costs US companies hundreds of millions of dollars.

So you basically just declared profits over safety. Nice.

The US is pretty late to the game when it comes to grounding the MAX. What if a US MAX went down and Trump/NTSB/FAA had done nothing prior? I’m sure you’d be on here asking why the US DIDN’T ground the aircraft.

ryane946 03-13-2019 11:35 AM

I would care less what Trump thinks. I care what the experts think. If the FAA said a plane should be grounded and Trump overruled them, I would have the same issue.

bigtime209 03-13-2019 01:05 PM

Despite what the media is saying, it wasn't Trump; it was the FAA's decision to ground the MAX. Per the FAA website:

The FAA is ordering the temporary grounding of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft (PDF) operated by U.S. airlines or in U.S. territory. The agency made this decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today. This evidence, together with newly refined satellite data available to FAA this morning, led to this decision.

The grounding will remain in effect pending further investigation, including examination of information from the aircraft’s flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders. An FAA team is in Ethiopia assisting the NTSB as parties to the investigation of the Flight 302 accident. The agency will continue to investigate.

AwkwardTurtle 03-13-2019 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2781570)
We would typically expect a president to defer to the judgment of the FAA and NTSB, who decided there was no reason to ground the airplane.

Then Trump comes along in his usual “bull in a china shop” way, ignoring all reasoning and expert opinions, and costs US companies hundreds of millions of dollars.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/faa-...-pressure.html

The googles shows that you are wrong.

sailingfun 03-13-2019 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2781570)
We would typically expect a president to defer to the judgment of the FAA and NTSB, who decided there was no reason to ground the airplane.

Then Trump comes along in his usual “bull in a china shop” way, ignoring all reasoning and expert opinions, and costs US companies hundreds of millions of dollars.

You just don’t understand! He is smarter than everyone else!

Bucking Bar 03-13-2019 02:22 PM

When will the US wake up to realize the FAA does not effectively manage the aircraft certification process and is damn near useless?

The manufacturers get it right, or they don't. The Gulfsteam G650 serves as an excellent example. The NTSB uncovered all kinds of absolute garbage where effectively, the airplane was being certified by the marketing dept.

The NG turned the secondary pitch controls into kinda the primary pitch control. Even the autopilot has to "trim bias" to flare. Then they added huge nacelles way forward of the CG which destablizes the jet at high AOA and stick an AOA pusher on it to fix what amounts to bad aerodynamic design. The pusher dorks up and guess what, it is hard wired to the most powerful pitch control the jet has and it does not lock itself out with pressure on the control collumn.

This is work around bull effluvia in the same style as Douglas. ... The MD90 ended up with a different pitch control system than the MD83.

Me thinks this does not get unscrewed with a few lines of code. It is the size, shape and power of a jet which has an elevator fitted in 1966 which controlled a thing with about 30,000 lbs of thrust. Now with twice the power and three times the passenger load it's just been stretched beyond it's design.


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