International (Cabin) Jumpseats
 

I commute internationally and have noticed that AA basically always "embargoes" (ID90 website speak) all international departures to prevent a pilot from listing for a cabin seat as a jumpseater.

I've never had that problem with UA, DL, HA, AS, GT, K4, etc. Does AA simply not extend reciprocal (cabin) jumpseating to international legs? Or is there an alternate listing procedure?

As an US 121 OAL you are not allowed to physically occupy the cockpit jumpseat. You can list, but the gate agents have to give you an actual seat (excluding the f/a jumpseat).*

As long as you can list as a jumpseater on an international flight, you shouldn't worry as long as there are seats available in the cabin.

* Transatlantic, this might be different coming from Central/South America or the Caribbean.

What I'm saying is that every single international flight on AA is embargoed from pilots listing for a jumpseat (understand it'a cabin only*) as a pilot. Not just some. All of them on myidtravel.

Is there a different procedure than trying to list as a pilot for international AA flights on myidtravel? Gate agents refuse to do any listing themselves.

*Never understood why mainline carriers refuse the cockpit jumpseat while every ACMI has been doing it for almost two decades now.

Because express carriers don’t fly to China, Japan, Brazil... there are reasons.

Give me a break. That's literally a list of the primary international destinations for ACMIs. All of which I've ridden to.

It's not even the main question either, which boils down to, why does AA embargo listing for a cabin seat as a pilot on international flights... it makes jumpseating (YES IN THE CABIN I KNOW) on AA outside the US impossible.

As I suspected this is probably a hopeless enquiry.

Not just AA, even my regional airline wouldn't let OAL jumpseaters sit up front to their "international" destinations. I think it has something to do with the crew list/customs.

ACMI is a little different since they don't fly pax, every seat is a jumpseat.

I've been closely watching responses to this question since I want to live in Bogota but still fly/commute 121 in the states. Looks like AA isn't the way to make this happen. Good to know.

This. There are different rules involved in flying to different countries and rather then comply with all the different rules it’s easier to just embargo all of them. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. But it is the way it is.

I love this thread. It's like the OP is speaking Chinese to these people. He keeps saying listing for a Jumpstart but with sitting in a normal seat in the cabin yet people still reference not being allowed to sit in the jumpseat internationally.

Exactly. That’s what we are al trying to tell him. Ha

I would say at least 90% of the posts on these boards are generated from a Russian troll farm. They are just honing their skills for 2020. Obviously this specific topic is causing them issues.