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BarrySeal 05-20-2019 11:45 AM

DFW Terminal F
 
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...llion-terminal


Wow, kinda shocked that business is so good. Congrats to AA

AAfng 05-20-2019 11:59 AM

They can’t handle the flights they have now out of DFW.

Arado 234 05-20-2019 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2823418)
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...llion-terminal


Wow, kinda shocked that business is so good. Congrats to AA

It's gonna be the mega super master base!

Name User 05-20-2019 01:40 PM

I think that's great. Anything that can help this company expand is good. However I question the motives. I have a hunch the reason they are sucking up all available space is because they don't want another airline to swoop in and make DFW a mini hub.

That being said it makes me excited they are wrapping this up. They are, actually, thinking long term on this one. Seriously, Kudos to Doug and Isom. I was wondering when they would announce it.

OVBIII 05-20-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 2823431)
It's gonna be the mega super master base!

They’ve gone from suck to blow! (Name that movie)

PRS Guitars 05-20-2019 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by OVBIII (Post 2823520)
They’ve gone from suck to blow! (Name that movie)

SpaceBalls! Love Mel Brooks movies.

TransWorld 05-20-2019 09:50 PM

DFW has space for realistically 10 (theoretically 13) terminals. F would be number 6.

OVBIII 05-21-2019 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2823706)
SpaceBalls! Love Mel Brooks movies.

Yes indeed!

RhinoBallAuto 05-21-2019 09:49 AM

The question still remains if that additional capacity will be served by mainline or WOs....

Name User 05-21-2019 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto (Post 2823918)
The question still remains if that additional capacity will be served by mainline or WOs....

Depending on how things go over the next five years it's quite possible one hub will be "de-emphasized" and the flying brought to DFW.

Al Czervik 05-21-2019 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2823942)
Depending on how things go over the next five years it's quite possible one hub will be "de-emphasized" and the flying brought to DFW.

PHX?..........

Name User 05-22-2019 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2823966)
PHX?..........

I'm not sure it just seems really aggressive. It's what, a 25% expansion of gates in DFW?

ipdanno 05-22-2019 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2823942)
Depending on how things go over the next five years it's quite possible one hub will be "de-emphasized" and the flying brought to DFW.

“All your bases are belong to us!”

Omniscient 05-22-2019 04:42 PM

Glad to see they are going to fix that disaster that is Terminal C. As a Spirit pilot, who enjoys the remodeled Terminal E, I was shocked at how bad Terminal C was last week during the weather meltdown with AA. Seriously, come on...its your main base and you let it look like the passenger terminal in Kabul. Just amazed AA let it get that bad. It reminds me of the old Spirit terminal in FLL that looked like a third world refugee camp.

AAfng 05-22-2019 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=Omniscient;2824652]Glad to see they are going to fix that disaster that is Terminal C. As a Spirit pilot, who enjoys the remodeled Terminal E, I was shocked at how bad Terminal C was last week during the weather meltdown with AA. Seriously, come on...its your main base and you let it look like the passenger terminal in Kabul. Just amazed AA let it get that bad. It reminds me of the old Spirit terminal in FLL that looked like a third world refugee camp.[/QUOTE

CLT is waaay worse than DFW. Ive been to kabul multiple times and it is more like LGA than dfw. Just saying

Omniscient 05-22-2019 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by AAfng (Post 2824678)

CLT is waaay worse than DFW. Ive been to kabul multiple times and it is more like LGA than dfw. Just saying

But does it have the delicious ISAF food like Kabul did? I was able to get imported prosciutto at the Kabul airport...I bet I cant get that at LGA. Just Saying :D

Floobs 05-22-2019 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2823966)
PHX?..........

Chicago I would bet.

flightlessbirds 05-22-2019 07:37 PM

I wouldn’t bet on AA giving up on ORD. They got the first round of new gates there with the L-stinger over UAL. Yields higher than PHX. New terminal in works to co-locate all the OneWorld traffic in the same terminal.

PHX is low yield O/D and not nearly as critical for connecting traffic in AA’s network as say CLT. More or less redundant with DFW and LAX. Only if we see a major AA LAX drawdown would I bet on PHX staying as large as it currently is.

HardLemonade 05-26-2019 11:39 AM

Slightly on topic..how does the future of PHL look? I'm thinking of strapping my belongings on to the back of my mountain bike and making a move to Philly...just hoping it's not going to be the world's most epic backfire.

ORDinary 05-26-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2826709)
Slightly on topic..how does the future of PHL look? I'm thinking of strapping my belongings on to the back of my mountain bike and making a move to Philly...just hoping it's not going to be the world's most epic backfire.

I'm far from an expert but considering they just spent millions on the international terminal and have been adding Europe trips I would say it's good.

Name User 05-27-2019 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2826709)
Slightly on topic..how does the future of PHL look? I'm thinking of strapping my belongings on to the back of my mountain bike and making a move to Philly...just hoping it's not going to be the world's most epic backfire.

The population of Philly is growing albeit fairly slowly. Roughly 1%-2% per year. At least it's not in decline. I think from a seniority standpoint it's an awesome move - it's junior and has a ton of commuters, so there is lots of opportunity for OG/premium when weather hits. It also gets quite a bit of storms in both the summer and winter months, and we tend to be cancel happy when that happens.

I actually considered it too, it has some pretty areas outside the city that can be rural. The worst part is the property taxes so just buy a smaller home, and there are areas that aren't as bad. The state income tax isn't bad at around 3%.

ag386 05-27-2019 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2826709)
Slightly on topic..how does the future of PHL look? I'm thinking of strapping my belongings on to the back of my mountain bike and making a move to Philly...just hoping it's not going to be the world's most epic backfire.

Shoulda stayed at Envoy brah.

drinksonme 05-27-2019 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2823966)
PHX?..........

Per Parker at a Crew News PHX is a tier 2 hub. He broke all hubs down by 1-3. LAX is maxed out, and can’t serve all the cities AA wants to serve with frequency. PHX handles much of the west coast/mountain region flying. It is very important to the company and provides relief for LAX AND DFW. It’s the 6th or 7th largest city, depending on whatever matrix, in the USA, a vacation destination, and has many companies inside its boarders.

SWA would laugh and take all the domestic and some international flying if AA left, and AA would never get any of it back. I believe PHX will stay for a lot longer than people think. Not all the traffic to the mountains and west can flow through DFW and LAX. Let’s not even get started on how much PHX cleans up the East Coast and Central weather issues. A lot the passengers were never suppose to go through PHX, but have to when DFW goes to hell.

PRS Guitars 05-28-2019 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2826709)
Slightly on topic..how does the future of PHL look? I'm thinking of strapping my belongings on to the back of my mountain bike and making a move to Philly...just hoping it's not going to be the world's most epic backfire.

I was pretty dang close to moving there this year. Staying put because we decided we don’t want to uproot the kids again, so we’ll wait it out. I think it’s a great base from which to leverage your seniority. You can bid, PHL, LGA, & DCA. PHL will be getting 787’s most likely. We were looking in Bucks County and north of Lancaster in a town called Lititz. You can buy a lot more house towards Lancaster. State tax is a Flat rate (my preferred tax style) just above 3%. Property taxes are way higher than in Colorado, but probably a bit lower than the metroplex. Each county has its own income tax of between .5% and 1% (mostly 1%). One could live a great life out there on our salaries.

SkyJunky 05-28-2019 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by drinksonme (Post 2827310)
Per Parker at a Crew News PHX is a tier 2 hub. He broke all hubs down by 1-3. LAX is maxed out, and can’t serve all the cities AA wants to serve with frequency. PHX handles much of the west coast/mountain region flying. It is very important to the company and provides relief for LAX AND DFW. It’s the 6th or 7th largest city, depending on whatever matrix, in the USA, a vacation destination, and has many companies inside its boarders.



SWA would laugh and take all the domestic and some international flying if AA left, and AA would never get any of it back. I believe PHX will stay for a lot longer than people think. Not all the traffic to the mountains and west can flow through DFW and LAX. Let’s not even get started on how much PHX cleans up the East Coast and Central weather issues. A lot the passengers were never suppose to go through PHX, but have to when DFW goes to hell.



Truth...

Have experienced this frequently. PHX has saved from DFW Wx meltdowns on more than several occasions while riding on AA equipment out of California.


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