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Brown Shugaaa 05-27-2019 05:31 PM

Beards
 
Does AA allow Beards, for at least guys with medical skin conditions? I have a short 3/8 inch, well groomed beard. I am currently in the military and have had it for the last 10 years, since I was diagnosed. I know there was a study done in Canada that busted the myth of not being able to obtain a proper seal on aviation O2 masks. I get fitted every other year for masks in the military, both positive pressure and Chemical / Biological. Its one of those 15 minute seal tests, where you have to read out of a book while moving your head in multiple uncomfortable positions. The machine says I get a good seal every time.

I know other countries airlines allow beards, and I know Hawaiian allows them, but was unsure about AA, or any others.

Any info would be appreciated (except your personal opinion on why you don't like beards)

wiz5422 05-27-2019 05:43 PM

We had a guy at Envoy who was in training who had a beard. He had a letter from his DR and the manufacturer of the O2 mask on the embraer saying that beards don't interfere with the seal of the oxygen mask.....

He didn't make it through training though. I am not sure if the same can be done at AA.

My personal belief is I wish the US would change this long standing issue with no beards. I honestly don't buy "it interferes with the seal" crap, I believe it is just "our fathers traditions" that came from the military and it is how it always has been and always shall be b.s.

In time I hope it changes as I see the stigma with tattoos changing over time.

Brown Shugaaa 05-27-2019 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2827343)
We had a guy at Envoy who was in training who had a beard. He had a letter from his DR and the manufacturer of the O2 mask on the embraer saying that beards don't interfere with the seal of the oxygen mask.....

He didn't make it through training though. I am not sure if the same can be done at AA.

My personal belief is I wish the US would change this long standing issue with no beards. I honestly don't buy "it interferes with the seal" crap, I believe it is just "our fathers traditions" that came from the military and it is how it always has been and always shall be b.s.

In time I hope it changes as I see the stigma with tattoos changing over time.

Thanks for the info!

Csy Mon 05-27-2019 06:06 PM

No beards @ AA..
Mustache no more than a 1/4” from the corner of your mouth.:eek:

Al Czervik 05-27-2019 06:16 PM

I have a classmate that sits reserve on the 777. Pretty sure that slacker has a beard.

symbian simian 05-27-2019 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2827356)
I have a classmate that sits reserve on the 777. Pretty sure that slacker has a beard.

Well yeah, but I assume it doesn't interfere with his golf game/ barbeque duties.

Hank Burley 05-28-2019 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Brown Shugaaa (Post 2827332)
Does AA allow Beards, for at least guys with medical skin conditions? I have a short 3/8 inch, well groomed beard. I am currently in the military and have had it for the last 10 years, since I was diagnosed. I know there was a study done in Canada that busted the myth of not being able to obtain a proper seal on aviation O2 masks. I get fitted every other year for masks in the military, both positive pressure and Chemical / Biological. Its one of those 15 minute seal tests, where you have to read out of a book while moving your head in multiple uncomfortable positions. The machine says I get a good seal every time.

I know other countries airlines allow beards, and I know Hawaiian allows them, but was unsure about AA, or any others.

Any info would be appreciated (except your personal opinion on why you don't like beards)

They are allowed but only if accompanied by a man bun. AA doesn’t allow half ass hipsters.

Al Czervik 05-28-2019 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2827368)
Well yeah, but I assume it doesn't interfere with his golf game/ barbeque duties.

He does do a mean open fire steak chimichurri.

Route66 05-28-2019 08:13 AM

Blue lanyards.....blue BEARDS!!!

Hampton 06-08-2019 01:49 PM

I hate shaving.

Monkey Wrench 06-09-2019 05:21 PM

I have never seen a UA, WN, DL, AA, JB, NK, AK, or regional pilot with a beard in the past 15 years. Maybe try overseas?

Prettywhacked1 06-11-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2827343)
We had a guy at Envoy who was in training who had a beard. He had a letter from his DR and the manufacturer of the O2 mask on the embraer saying that beards don't interfere with the seal of the oxygen mask.....

He didn't make it through training though. I am not sure if the same can be done at AA.

My personal belief is I wish the US would change this long standing issue with no beards. I honestly don't buy "it interferes with the seal" crap, I believe it is just "our fathers traditions" that came from the military and it is how it always has been and always shall be b.s.

In time I hope it changes as I see the stigma with tattoos changing over time.

That figures....if someone so obsessed with a grooming item as to try and subvert FAA and DOT rules (based on historical & anecdotal lessons), said individual doesn’t need to be anywhere near a set of flight controls imho.

Next thing they will be insisting on needing to violate clearances and SOP because it “is offensive”, or some such nonsense.

Name User 06-11-2019 08:19 AM

AA FOM allows jumpseaters to have beards as long as they aren't pilots.

They just need to be honest and that they don't want beards because it's their company and they make the rules. I've personally never really cared for the look of them.

ESQ702 06-11-2019 09:47 AM

Go fly in Canada brother...

305808 06-12-2019 05:00 PM

HAL allow beards. Seen them all

buddies8 06-12-2019 05:55 PM

So does american if you're an f/a.
Next stupid topic.

cactusmike 06-12-2019 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Burley (Post 2827516)
They are allowed but only if accompanied by a man bun. AA doesn’t allow half ass hipsters.

That’s so funny. I’m laughing just picturing it.

It’s on the way.


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