Opportunity Cost - AA vs UAL?
#181
Meh...
Joined APC: Jan 2012
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Been a commuter with AA for 27 months while living in CLT. Strongly considering moving to Denver for family reasons. Not thrilled with AA culture/debt and would certainly prefer living in base (still can’t hold CLT). Should I dust off my UAL app and forgo AA seniority accrued or suck it up and commute for the next 20 years? Thx all.
You have no choice, because you have no job offer.
Apply to UAL, if you are offered the job, make your choice.
What I tell pup aviators is this: don't chase the flavor-of-the-year club with airlines. Every airline goes through its tough times and boom time.
So, if you are lucky enough to have multiple offers, pick the place that has the domicile you like, and that meets your family's needs if that is a factor.
Living in domicile is heaven.
Living in domicile with the full range of fleets available, from narrowbody to wide body, is like a kid in Wonka's factory.
For instance, if you want to live in the DC area (UAL, SWA, AA) if you go with UAL, you will have everything from narrow body domestic to widebody international all at one base. With AA in the DC area, it's a narrow body base only, and you'll commute to a wide body base.
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#185
Meh...
Joined APC: Jan 2012
Position: Nunya
Posts: 240
Been a commuter with AA for 27 months while living in CLT. Strongly considering moving to Denver for family reasons. Not thrilled with AA culture/debt and would certainly prefer living in base (still can’t hold CLT). Should I dust off my UAL app and forgo AA seniority accrued or suck it up and commute for the next 20 years? Thx all.
#186
Been a commuter with AA for 27 months while living in CLT. Strongly considering moving to Denver for family reasons. Not thrilled with AA culture/debt and would certainly prefer living in base (still can’t hold CLT). Should I dust off my UAL app and forgo AA seniority accrued or suck it up and commute for the next 20 years? Thx all.
Live in&love DEN. Holding DEN as a junior FO isn’t the problem. My next door neighbor is UAL, 20+ years. Commutes to ORD or bids training center for better schedules. Friend, 2013 hire, PIC 737, thinking it will be a few years before he gets DEN. I have seen 20year NB FOs on my commute. It’s still a very senior base with little movement.
Disclaimer: not at UAL myself.
#187
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 917
Not sure I would leave after 27months at AA (actually more since you haven't gotten an offer from UA yet), but just for information purposes Guys in new hire class were awarded a lateral to DEN on the 737 this last week on a vacancy bid.
So, the current time to get to DEN is very reduced at UA. Not sure how long it will last, but with the 787 domicile open in DEN now and the "planned" growth of the operation in DEN, movement seems to be very good on the bottom
So, the current time to get to DEN is very reduced at UA. Not sure how long it will last, but with the 787 domicile open in DEN now and the "planned" growth of the operation in DEN, movement seems to be very good on the bottom
#188
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 491
Absolutely!
Live in&love DEN. Holding DEN as a junior FO isn’t the problem. My next door neighbor is UAL, 20+ years. Commutes to ORD or bids training center for better schedules. Friend, 2013 hire, PIC 737, thinking it will be a few years before he gets DEN. I have seen 20year NB FOs on my commute. It’s still a very senior base with little movement.
Disclaimer: not at UAL myself.
Live in&love DEN. Holding DEN as a junior FO isn’t the problem. My next door neighbor is UAL, 20+ years. Commutes to ORD or bids training center for better schedules. Friend, 2013 hire, PIC 737, thinking it will be a few years before he gets DEN. I have seen 20year NB FOs on my commute. It’s still a very senior base with little movement.
Disclaimer: not at UAL myself.
#189
Are you talking about United? We have 12 year Captains here in DEN now and NBFO went unfilled on the last vacancy bid. It was different 5 years ago, but its completely changed now. DEN could be given out in new hire classes in the future. A lot changed when the 787 base opened in DEN.
#190
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 491
I know newhires can get DEN, as I said in my post, just like I said I know people that are still waiting to get to DEN in the left seat at 7 years. Being the plug at 12 years on a NB doesn't sound awesome if you don't mind me saying so. What exactly did I say you disagree with??
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