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Old 08-29-2019, 02:17 PM
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Been a commuter with AA for 27 months while living in CLT. Strongly considering moving to Denver for family reasons. Not thrilled with AA culture/debt and would certainly prefer living in base (still can’t hold CLT). Should I dust off my UAL app and forgo AA seniority accrued or suck it up and commute for the next 20 years? Thx all.
Elevate,

You have no choice, because you have no job offer.

Apply to UAL, if you are offered the job, make your choice.

What I tell pup aviators is this: don't chase the flavor-of-the-year club with airlines. Every airline goes through its tough times and boom time.

So, if you are lucky enough to have multiple offers, pick the place that has the domicile you like, and that meets your family's needs if that is a factor.

Living in domicile is heaven.

Living in domicile with the full range of fleets available, from narrowbody to wide body, is like a kid in Wonka's factory.

For instance, if you want to live in the DC area (UAL, SWA, AA) if you go with UAL, you will have everything from narrow body domestic to widebody international all at one base. With AA in the DC area, it's a narrow body base only, and you'll commute to a wide body base.

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Old 11-12-2019, 04:01 PM
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Did you quit? If not, I’m guessing you got CLT on the last bid. Congrats, if so.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
Did you quit? If not, I’m guessing you got CLT on the last bid. Congrats, if so.
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
Did you quit? If not, I’m guessing you got CLT on the last bid. Congrats, if so.
Ha good catch. I hope he didn’t quit!
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Old 11-19-2019, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevate View Post
Been a commuter with AA for 27 months while living in CLT. Strongly considering moving to Denver for family reasons. Not thrilled with AA culture/debt and would certainly prefer living in base (still can’t hold CLT). Should I dust off my UAL app and forgo AA seniority accrued or suck it up and commute for the next 20 years? Thx all.
No choice to be made without a job offer.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevate View Post
Been a commuter with AA for 27 months while living in CLT. Strongly considering moving to Denver for family reasons. Not thrilled with AA culture/debt and would certainly prefer living in base (still can’t hold CLT). Should I dust off my UAL app and forgo AA seniority accrued or suck it up and commute for the next 20 years? Thx all.
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No choice to be made without a job offer.
Absolutely!

Live in&love DEN. Holding DEN as a junior FO isn’t the problem. My next door neighbor is UAL, 20+ years. Commutes to ORD or bids training center for better schedules. Friend, 2013 hire, PIC 737, thinking it will be a few years before he gets DEN. I have seen 20year NB FOs on my commute. It’s still a very senior base with little movement.

Disclaimer: not at UAL myself.
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Old 11-22-2019, 11:14 AM
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Not sure I would leave after 27months at AA (actually more since you haven't gotten an offer from UA yet), but just for information purposes Guys in new hire class were awarded a lateral to DEN on the 737 this last week on a vacancy bid.

So, the current time to get to DEN is very reduced at UA. Not sure how long it will last, but with the 787 domicile open in DEN now and the "planned" growth of the operation in DEN, movement seems to be very good on the bottom
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian View Post
Absolutely!

Live in&love DEN. Holding DEN as a junior FO isn’t the problem. My next door neighbor is UAL, 20+ years. Commutes to ORD or bids training center for better schedules. Friend, 2013 hire, PIC 737, thinking it will be a few years before he gets DEN. I have seen 20year NB FOs on my commute. It’s still a very senior base with little movement.

Disclaimer: not at UAL myself.
Are you talking about United? We have 12 year Captains here in DEN now and NBFO went unfilled on the last vacancy bid. It was different 5 years ago, but its completely changed now. DEN could be given out in new hire classes in the future. A lot changed when the 787 base opened in DEN.
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Are you talking about United? We have 12 year Captains here in DEN now and NBFO went unfilled on the last vacancy bid. It was different 5 years ago, but its completely changed now. DEN could be given out in new hire classes in the future. A lot changed when the 787 base opened in DEN.
I know newhires can get DEN, as I said in my post, just like I said I know people that are still waiting to get to DEN in the left seat at 7 years. Being the plug at 12 years on a NB doesn't sound awesome if you don't mind me saying so. What exactly did I say you disagree with??
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Originally Posted by symbian simian View Post
I know newhires can get DEN, as I said in my post, just like I said I know people that are still waiting to get to DEN in the left seat at 7 years. Being the plug at 12 years on a NB doesn't sound awesome if you don't mind me saying so. What exactly did I say you disagree with??
I know a lot of people that commute to other bases to hold better flying, despite being able to hold their own base. The length in time is mostly because we didn’t hire for almost a decade. A 2013 hire is literally only a couple hundred seniority numbers from holding DEN, and could happen on the next bid, based on what’s coming down the pipeline. Expecting 65 Captain bids a month just on the guppy for the foreseeable future, not including backfills form 18 wide bodies being delivered by June. So come back in 6 months and there will be 6 year pilots holding Captain in DEN, the most senior base by far.
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