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Old 12-08-2019, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brillo View Post
But the only way really for those numbers to keep dropping would be adding more of those positions/airplanes or for some reason a particular bid status became less desirable for more senior pilots, thus dropping to junior ones.
LGA Group II CA is about as undesirable as it gets for our company, I would expect LGA/737/320/CA to drop to 12,500, but wouldn’t be surprised if it went north of that number. It’s just such a bad position to be the bottom 90 percentile in that I think a lot of people will avoid it.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:38 AM
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I could see G2 CA/G4 FO falling to 12,500-13,000 on a September 2020 vacancy, if the vacancy was processed before the July seniority re-shuffle. Their real seniority numbers after correction would be in the 11,700-12,300 range. Still incredible movement and as has been pointed out, the time it takes to reach that seniority level is shrinking.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dobbs18 View Post
LGA Group II CA is about as undesirable as it gets for our company, I would expect LGA/737/320/CA to drop to 12,500, but wouldn’t be surprised if it went north of that number. It’s just such a bad position to be the bottom 90 percentile in that I think a lot of people will avoid it.
It’s not undesirable if you live there
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What seniority number is the most jr DFW G2 captain?
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What seniority number is the most jr DFW G2 captain?
10652

At least as of the end of January; only a paper CA for now.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:15 AM
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The DFW CA # surprised me; it had been in the 9's for quite a while. Definitely a big jump. I wouldn't be surprised if LGA stuff remained super junior because it's just such a huge PITA. Hell even if you live there. I don't know how people do it.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:36 AM
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Any idea why there is such a disparity in seniority between A320 CA and 737 CA, namely in LAX, DCA, and MIA? At least on the bottom end, 737 is way junior to the 320. Being that both aircraft pay the same, it is surprising to see such a disparity. I know the 320 is a nicer and more comfortable airplane, but that alone does not seem like enough to cause such a seniority difference. Any thoughts?
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:49 AM
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Any idea why there is such a disparity in seniority between A320 CA and 737 CA, namely in LAX, DCA, and MIA? At least on the bottom end, 737 is way junior to the 320. Being that both aircraft pay the same, it is surprising to see such a disparity. I know the 320 is a nicer and more comfortable airplane, but that alone does not seem like enough to cause such a seniority difference. Any thoughts?
My only guess is that for a lot of the bids in 2018 and 2019 there were more upgrades on the 737 being given when the vacancies came out so it drove it down to being more jr. I have no real data to back it up if that’s true or not, just what my naked eye saw. But at the end of the day seniority doesn’t lie and the AB is just flat out more desirable to most. In 2020 I think it will even out more, although if and when the Max comes back I think you will see a big drop again on the 737 compared to the AB. Just my thought.
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 View Post
Any idea why there is such a disparity in seniority between A320 CA and 737 CA, namely in LAX, DCA, and MIA? At least on the bottom end, 737 is way junior to the 320. Being that both aircraft pay the same, it is surprising to see such a disparity. I know the 320 is a nicer and more comfortable airplane, but that alone does not seem like enough to cause such a seniority difference. Any thoughts?
Look at the bid pack. I have for lga and dca and to me it appears the 320 has the better trips. The 737 is the rj of mainline
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 View Post
Any idea why there is such a disparity in seniority between A320 CA and 737 CA, namely in LAX, DCA, and MIA? At least on the bottom end, 737 is way junior to the 320. Being that both aircraft pay the same, it is surprising to see such a disparity. I know the 320 is a nicer and more comfortable airplane, but that alone does not seem like enough to cause such a seniority difference. Any thoughts?
My guess is the trips. In LAX, the 321s do Hawaii. LGA/LAX 321s have the transcon that is presumed to be a posh trip (it's nice, but I don't see any reason to salivate). However, DCA and MIA (at least to my understanding) have more of the Caribbean on the 737 than the 320s. Not sure that helps...
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