I don't necessarily object to that answer either, but slow-rolling the E190's exit and not bringing its payscales up to "industry standard" in the meantime is not the answer. Most of the 190 flights are always full, so I have no doubts they could fill a 319 on most of its routes.

That’s asking the wrong question. Try this:

Hopefully someone is negotiating accordingly.


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The question is "should we believe that answer?" I'm not putting it past management to slow roll us and put out this facade of parking the 190s and then blowing up the fleet with additional 190/195 E2s after a contract gets finalized with the same abysmal G1 rates.

This!!!

Filler....

I would hope APA is calling the company's bluff on the E190 and negotiating a new payscale for it also. Whether it goes away 6 months after the contract is signed or we buy new E2's, we shouldn't be the only mainline operation with near regional payscale on a 99 seat aircraft. I emailed APA almost a year ago about this and never got a response.

Lots of rumors floating around, but I did hear that they are replacing engines on the ones that need it; six of them I believe. If they are going to spend millions of dollars on new engines, they obviously aren't going to get rid of them anytime soon.

FWIW, I also heard Embraer has been to Dallas more than twice showing off their E2 to management.

Absolutely. Management has proven they cannot be trusted. Devil is in the details.

If they wanted a large fleet of 190's they would've bought them in 2013 with the signing of the JCBA IMO.

As it is every other carrier except Delta is getting rid of their smaller aircraft and upgauging. If you can buy a used 319 for 1/3 the cost of a 190, it seats more and slots into your current training program, why wouldn't you? US/AW now has 320's that are almost two decades old, the company has a good hand on how to maintain them.

Supposedly a bunch of 319's are coming off lease and available.

I really don't mind, I'd much rather have a 319 than a 190 from a job standpoint.

Frontier birds are here, read somewhere there were more coming from Alaska/virgin.

This is correct. I saw the E2 they brought to DFW earlier this year or last year. And I'd bet that Embraer is willing to make a good deal on those planes. They were really banking on scope relief to sell a bunch of their 175 E2s. That's obviously not going to work out for them.

And don't forget that any negotiation on E2 would likely be with Boeing, not Embraer...Boeing may have incentive to give some good deals in light of 'recent' events...