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Old 08-09-2019, 05:55 PM   #21  
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Kind of a doozy announcement, sorry.

Was expecting Oceania, more Asia, etc...stuff that requires more jets and pilots. Maybe its coming down the pipe.
Vasu said to expect a separate Oceania/Asia release at a later date in the interview.
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Wait, we have to work every Wednesday?!?!
This was before our time but there was a time in the 80's when AA was firing on all cylinders. Seemed like every year they were announcing a major order for new (not replacement) aircraft.

I mean this announcement is cool and all but doesn't really seem to do a lot for hiring. I think that was all his point is.

But, still cool. I really hope these destinations stick. More successful destinations and they might start ordering more aircraft. Who knows. Doug hasn't presided over an expanding airline, really, ever. From CEO at AWA just prior to 9/11, he's had a rough two decades.
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This was before our time but there was a time in the 80's when AA was firing on all cylinders. Seemed like every year they were announcing a major order for new (not replacement) aircraft.



I mean this announcement is cool and all but doesn't really seem to do a lot for hiring. I think that was all his point is.



But, still cool. I really hope these destinations stick. More successful destinations and they might start ordering more aircraft. Who knows. Doug hasn't presided over an expanding airline, really, ever. From CEO at AWA just prior to 9/11, he's had a rough two decades.


Yea but in this day and age with JVs, codeshares, trumps recent support of the me3, rapid domestic ulcc expansion, etc its good for us to really just hang on to what we have. It could be so much worse.
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Tel Aviv is a great layover: Hotels on the beach, fine restaurants, night clubs, friendly locals, etc.
It went senior with Tower Air, my previous gig..
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Yea but in this day and age with JVs, codeshares, trumps recent support of the me3, rapid domestic ulcc expansion, etc its good for us to really just hang on to what we have. It could be so much worse.
I definitely agree we can't be greedy.
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This was before our time but there was a time in the 80's when AA was firing on all cylinders. Seemed like every year they were announcing a major order for new (not replacement) aircraft.

I mean this announcement is cool and all but doesn't really seem to do a lot for hiring. I think that was all his point is.

But, still cool. I really hope these destinations stick. More successful destinations and they might start ordering more aircraft. Who knows. Doug hasn't presided over an expanding airline, really, ever. From CEO at AWA just prior to 9/11, he's had a rough two decades.
A rough two decades?! He holds about $80 million in AA stock and runs one of the largest airlines in the world. I wish my idea of a rough 20 years was only 80 mill
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A rough two decades?! He holds about $80 million in AA stock and runs one of the largest airlines in the world. I wish my idea of a rough 20 years was only 80 mill
To Doug building "his" airline is a personal goal. Money is good yes but building his empire thru the airline and putting his flag on the map is even more important. IMO.
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Either way no matter what happens to AA he’s going to ride off into the sunset with 70+ million. Contrast that with the 30,000 airline pilots who had their pensions wiped out. They had “a rough two decades”. The executive level of airline management has been absolutely killing it during the last 20 years.

Look at the historical gap between top captain pay and VP and above compensation. It has been increasing exponentially since 2000.
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Old 11-02-2019, 09:08 AM   #29  
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Tel Aviv is a great layover: Hotels on the beach, fine restaurants, night clubs, friendly locals, etc.
It went senior with Tower Air, my previous gig..
We had it at TWA, as well; the problem was, it was a low-yield route, like Hawaii was. No one pays full fare to go there.
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We had it at TWA, as well; the problem was, it was a low-yield route, like Hawaii was. No one pays full fare to go there.
Not the case these days. Yes it gets a lot of tourists. But the tech, defense, and bio/pharm industries pay for a lot of business class seats to/from TLV. Also a lot of wealthy tourists.
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