Longhornmaniac8

That's absolutely not the intent. The intent is for AA/WO pilots to do the same thing YX pilots are required to for AA/WO flights. The D6 list will be processed in order of check-in. If an AA pilot checks-in first, that seat is, at captain's discretion of course, theirs. Just the same way a YX pilot is treated on AA metal.

I can't speak to your experience trying to list on myidtravel, but I don't know why it would be any different on a YX-operated AA flight than listing as a D6 for any other AA flight. Is it possible you were searching the carrier as YX instead of AA?

If there is truly some issue listing for a flight such that AA/WO pilots can't list and are therefore being denied the opportunity for a YX jumpseat, then this is something that needs to be be addressed. That is absolutely 100% not the intent of this change.

LBFO79

No, it says ineligible for listing. It just blocks us from making that listing b.c. it is online. Just like it wont let me list for an AA flight jumpseat listing as a d6. Those also show up as ineligible. All while I am trying to rebook on another republic flight which is full. The original flight is delayed for maintenance. Let's see how this goes.

Longhornmaniac8

Thanks for confirming that. Do you happen know if gate agents are able to make a D6 listing for you? I know we can't check in on a D6 until the gate.

I'll get back to you once I hear more. If this is the case across the board, this is definitely a problem.

captive apple

Of course OAL shouldn’t go ahead of AAC Eagle.
Would be nice to see solidarity.
This isn’t a war.

rcflying53

Sure. This is from the APA J/S Committee document:

*** AAC Non-Rev on a Standby List Defined (May NEVER Occupy the Cockpit Jumpseat) ***
AAC stands for American Airlines Connection and is the CABIN SEAT priority code for employees of Non-Wholly owned Regional Airlines when traveling on American Airlines mainline flights as well as our 3 Wholly Owned Regional Carriers. AAC’s have cabin seating priority on their own metal over D1’s and D2’s.

The following carriers will utilize priority code AAC:

Compass (CP)
ExpressJet (EV)
Mesa (YV)
Republic (YX)
Skywest (OO)
Trans States (AX)

On AA mainline and AA Wholly owned Regional Carriers AAC’s are listed below D2’s but ahead of D3’s. An AAC employee traveling under the AAC priority code may NEVER occupy the cockpit jumpseat.

If the AAC traveler is flight deck jumpseat qualified and wants the jumpseat, they must create a D6 booking like all other D6 jumpseaters.

captive apple

1/3 of that list is wrong.
Geez

rcflying53

That’s not really true. It hurts Republic’s feed reliability and thus hurts your ability to retain your contract with us. Remember, you work for a contractor who works for us. We don’t work for you.

A reciprocal J/S agreement has NOTHING to do with priority, but only the ability to occupy a J/S. If you still feel disadvantaged, remember how many FDJ seats you have on your single equipment type and how many we have in multiple types. We only have 2 types (we’ll 2.5 if you count the few remaining LUS 757’s) left with a single seat, yet we will ALWAYS be at a disadvantage riding on your planes vs. you on ours regardless of priority.

Don’t get that all confused. I agree that your metal you get the jumpseat. I don’t dispute that at all. But, also remember you don’t offer nearly the same “reciprocity” as you claim to.

rcflying53

True. Strike ExpressJet and Trans States from the list.

Gone Flying

this may have changed but RAH pilots used to be able to occupy the FA JS and would do this to get ofline pilots on. i know for a fact you cannot do that for them at AA. also about 1/ 2 your nb fleet has 1 js, so im not really sure what you think is so special about AAs js. what RAH is asking for is industry standard and honestly i have no idea why anyone would not agree. just so you know what they are proposing is exactly how DL does it and similar to UAL ( no WO at UAL) also a reciprocal JS agreement absolutly can deal with priority. if you are not willing to offer them what you are asking for, it is not reciprocal

buddies8

Correct me if I'm wrong but. That memo is from from the union and has no weight to gate agents who work for aa, eny or pdt. Your company, has it changed its jumpseat policy? Has your company informed aa of this change. As far as I can see it's a meno from your union, wont carry any weight just like my unions does not.