Republic Airline Unilateral JS Action
#242
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That’s funny how you talk about you made scope concessions to ALLOW their existence. That’s your fault. Shouldn’t have ever given up scope.
So, should every Republic pilot get AAC FDJ priority? Or just those who operate AA routes?
The big problem is that Republic pilots can contract out to any number of airlines.
Also, the key thing I think you are missing is the idea of these being “AA routes”. These are not Republic routes (or UAL/DAL routes either). I absolutely agree that you should have JS priority on your own metal, but remember that AA pilots are not “offline” in any respect as these routes are owned by our airline and we’ve made scope concessions to allow your existence on them. To let a SWA or DAL person on the JS before an AA pilot on OUR OWN ROUTES is ridiculous. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see “reciprocity” being the issue here. You want to dictate JS priority then get your own “Republic Airlines” route network and have at it. By all means, feel free to put AA pilots at the bottom of that list if you so desire.
You are conflating seats in the back that on routes that AA is flying with the jumpseat. Just because it says it says Eagle on the side doesn't entitle you to have priority on our jumpseat when you do not reciprocate.
The big problem is that Republic pilots can contract out to any number of airlines.
Also, the key thing I think you are missing is the idea of these being “AA routes”. These are not Republic routes (or UAL/DAL routes either). I absolutely agree that you should have JS priority on your own metal, but remember that AA pilots are not “offline” in any respect as these routes are owned by our airline and we’ve made scope concessions to allow your existence on them. To let a SWA or DAL person on the JS before an AA pilot on OUR OWN ROUTES is ridiculous. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see “reciprocity” being the issue here. You want to dictate JS priority then get your own “Republic Airlines” route network and have at it. By all means, feel free to put AA pilots at the bottom of that list if you so desire.
You are conflating seats in the back that on routes that AA is flying with the jumpseat. Just because it says it says Eagle on the side doesn't entitle you to have priority on our jumpseat when you do not reciprocate.
#243
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[QUOTE=SaintNick;2881722]
I forgot to write Whiskey a thank you note for that. What’s the protocol again? HaHa
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#244
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But if you don’t believe me here’s the quote from the APC American page:
List online before checking in at the ticket counter or gate.
#245
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Not sure if you work for AA or a wo but I knew this argument would come up. First of all, that’s not how the jumpseat works. Just because it says American Eagle on the side of our (Republic) airplane doesn’t entitle them to have priority on our airplanes if we don’t get it on theirs.
We are also not asking for them to compete with non AAG pilots. If you could actually follow along with the thread, we would get aac fdj and they keep their aa/as fdj.
We are also not asking for them to compete with non AAG pilots. If you could actually follow along with the thread, we would get aac fdj and they keep their aa/as fdj.
I doubt it's "just" IT, AA is responsible for the CASS list therefore they, to benefit their gate agents, created an FDJ acronym to speed JS boarding on planes they're responsible for boarding.
AA, does not have crontrol over the CASS list for RAH, Mesa, Skywest, or Compass, and does not designate who is eligible and who isn't, its not their baby.
Myid90 is the first layer of validating who is elibible and who isn't, the agent confirms this which is the second layer.
I personally agree RAH deserves priority.
APA is jealous RAH can bump them off Delta or United.
AA doesn't want to hand out FDJ acronym because they don't want the liability of their computer validating a list they can't control and involves 4 other company's all with high turnover.
AA prefers to have 3 party company, such as ID90, maintain JS rider list.
We all know agents will quit checking CASS if AAC FDJ pops up, and if RAH interns forgets to keep list current AA gets fined and AA agent has a union with langauage supporting for 5 years now FDJ=No CASS check required.
#246
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I don’t write too many completely serious things, but here is an attempt;
I haven’t spoken to ANYONE at RAH would “deny” any AA or WO pilot the Jumpseat. They will however respect the priority listed in our FOM, I think there a huge difference here.
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#247
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I don’t write too many completely serious things, but here is an attempt;
I haven’t spoken to ANYONE at RAH would “deny” any AA or WO pilot the Jumpseat. They will however respect the priority listed in our FOM, I think there a huge difference here.
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I haven’t spoken to ANYONE at RAH would “deny” any AA or WO pilot the Jumpseat. They will however respect the priority listed in our FOM, I think there a huge difference here.
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#248
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[QUOTE=Web265;2881746]I don’t write too many completely serious things, but here is an attempt;
I haven’t spoken to ANYONE at RAH would “deny” any AA or WO pilot the Jumpseat. They will however respect the priority listed in our FOM, I think there a huge difference here.
Your FOM was revised specifically to push AA pilots to the bottom of the list. Hoping to spur the pilots into action to take up arms against AA management to effect change. This assumes there’s nothing else the pilots of American have going on to improve their own QOL with management. Since that’s not true let’s be real about what’s going to happen here. A mainline pilot is going to get left behind while a Delta pilot sits on an American Eagle jumpseat. Knowing what you know about pilots, who is that pilot going to blame for going out of priority order and being left at the gate? If you answered AA management you are wrong.
Just to be clear, I understand the complaint that RAH pilots have brought up. I’m simply taking a guess at what the real result is going to be.
It appears Teamsters has exhausted all avenues and RAH management agreed to a change in your FOM. Hope I’m wrong and it works out the way you want.
I haven’t spoken to ANYONE at RAH would “deny” any AA or WO pilot the Jumpseat. They will however respect the priority listed in our FOM, I think there a huge difference here.
Your FOM was revised specifically to push AA pilots to the bottom of the list. Hoping to spur the pilots into action to take up arms against AA management to effect change. This assumes there’s nothing else the pilots of American have going on to improve their own QOL with management. Since that’s not true let’s be real about what’s going to happen here. A mainline pilot is going to get left behind while a Delta pilot sits on an American Eagle jumpseat. Knowing what you know about pilots, who is that pilot going to blame for going out of priority order and being left at the gate? If you answered AA management you are wrong.
Just to be clear, I understand the complaint that RAH pilots have brought up. I’m simply taking a guess at what the real result is going to be.
It appears Teamsters has exhausted all avenues and RAH management agreed to a change in your FOM. Hope I’m wrong and it works out the way you want.
#249
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what you know about pilots, who is that pilot going to blame for going out of priority order and being left at the gate? If you answered AA management you are wrong.
I’m not really concerned who they blame, the route to fix it remains the same.
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I’m not really concerned who they blame, the route to fix it remains the same.
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#250
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what you know about pilots, who is that pilot going to blame for going out of priority order and being left at the gate? If you answered AA management you are wrong.
I’m not really concerned who they blame, the route to fix it remains the same.
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I’m not really concerned who they blame, the route to fix it remains the same.
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