magnus0322

That's why we do the walk to ensure the JS is being cleared according to our reciprocal jumpseat agreement with AA. We are not changing any boarding priority as you claim.

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Swedish Blender

Then you really know nothing of AA scope prior to 9/11.

Yes, American Eagle (Envoy) started getting 50 seat rjs. They were limited to a certain number. 50 seats were the max. The ATR-72s were an exception to AA scope by serial number. Not total number, but individual airframes. That’s why Eagle started getting the -140 and -135. They were maxed out on the 50 seat -145.

Post merger/bankruptcy changed everything.

jetflyer123

First off, let me reiterate that I think what you are asking for is reasonable, but they way you are trying to achieve it is unreasonable. If you think that by strong arming AA that management will panic and give you what you want then you are truly delusional.

First off, this management group doesn’t give a heaping pile of horse ******* whether you can fly on American or I can fly on Republic. Second, they generally don’t respond well to strong arming. Five years of trying to negotiate a contract for the mechanics here, and the slightest whiff of a slow down, he sued them. Do you really think he or his team will respond favorably to a contract carrier who is trying to dictate changes by strong arming the hand that feeds you? Again, I’m not saying it’s unfair because it is, but this place is more likely to show you unfair before they bend over backwards to resolve your complaint by unilaterally changing the boarding process on certain AA flights. They have the ability to make it hurt if they wanted to, and if enough union guys are affected... Beyond giving you the right to fly on your own metal, I doubt they have to give you priority over our buddy passes, but they do. You could be traveling everywhere as a D6, and they could also take away your ID90 access and make you list on AA like everyone else. I highly doubt that they will show anyone a weakness that by adhering to demands and threats to make a change for you. Too dangerous in their eyes because the next demand is something more and so on.

Here is the deal. You have a contract with American to operate the way American tells you to operate. That includes clearing standbys in accordance with the AA travel policy. Whether you try to JS on Delta, United, or Southwest, the gate agent clears the list in the order authorized by company policy. By company policy, I mean the mainline carrier. They are not allowed to skip people on the list and they do not care about, nor answer to your FOM or your managers. Now, I 100% agree that riding the jumpseat is at the captains discretion, but where you are changing the boarding priority is by thinking the captain has discretion over the list. The agents are going to do what they have been told by AA, not republic, and the captain absolutely has every right to kick us off the jumpseat. What the captain cannot do is go up and tell the agent that he wants this person to ride instead of this person. While the captain owns the jumpseat, well until the FAA shows up, the gate agent owns the boarding process. If an AA gate agent refuses to go out of order, the order that AA says people get cleared, then there is nothing the captain is going to do about it except leave with an empty jumpseat, and if you are thinking that you will refuse to leave until it’s full, the agent will call the tower, the tower will call your ops department, ops calls management, and management calls you and says get the flight out because we have a contract to operate on time. The Gate agent has to clear CASS and issue the boarding pass, and without that the captain has 0 authority to walk the next guy on the list down the jetbridge. The gate agents do the least amount of work possible and it is doubtful that they are going to operate on 2 different policies because Republic said so. So now instead of leaving with the jumpseat occupied, you now leave empty, the Delta guy that was banking on the second flight loses the jumpseat to the AA guy who was removed by republic, and now they start telling their story and Republic has a jumpseat war with Delta and it goes on and on. No one wins. But seriously, good luck.

busdriver123456

Go email to your union and management and this will be fixed and you then go back to worrying about how to increase your flow or get actual work rules that are quality. The strangers of APC won’t fix it. It appears the change comes from the FOM which is an FAA regulated manual for Republic meaning it’s management also driving the change.

Republic won’t be losing the AA flying because of a jumpseat listing issue. Republic is the most dependable Eagle operator they have. You live in a alternate world if you think that’s going to happen.

Republic would like to be 3rd place on AA flights with all other AAC pilots based on time of check in. They don’t want to go in front of you. Stop using APC for your emotional support group and go do something productive.

busdriver123456

It doesn’t matter the JS is owned by Republic their JS their rules. The FOM supersedes whatever the gate agent says. Captain has the final authority. The OPS department at Republic will not blink since their official manual says to process this way. Then the delay goes on the gate agent and Republic still gets paid their full amount and their controllable performance metric doesn’t move.

Go email your management team...

busdriver123456

Post 9/11 BK. Then AA scope went to non existent. Merger time it was already terrible.

chrisreedrules

And if you think AA isn’t going to side with its own gate agents / own policy if it starts causing delays you’re wrong. They have become very performance driven (minimizing delays and cancellations).

pangolin

Exactly. This is the request.

AverageCoffee

Lot of insecurities in this post. Republic wanted a change, you got one, now deal with the fallout as it effects 4 airline groups. (American, PSA, Envoy, Piedmont)

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