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Old 10-06-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield View Post
I heard Ed Bastian is being lured over. He's then buying Spirit, and going to take on Frontier head on. Source: FA.

Fake news....

(Unless the Ed Bastain guy you mention happens to be a cat.)
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:03 PM
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If you look at the airlines that are known for their relationship with employees and compare them to us at a 5 year look back the investors have voted and AAL is the loser:
American down 31%
Alaska up 57%
Southwest up 65%
JetBlue up 47%
Delta up 59%
Even United is up 77%

There is nobody to blame but themselves. They have instituted every plan they desired. Every policy. Every trick or gimmick. They’ve bought billions back of stock and the price still lags competitors badly. They close the door on customers 10 prior yet our metrics do not lead the industry. They give lip service to “culture”. They overbook flights and hubs, they cancel flights, they communicate poorly to customers. They’ve got the operation that they planned for and implemented. 100% it’s their operation. It’s what they wanted.

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Old 10-06-2019, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear View Post
If you look at the airlines that are known for their relationship with employees and compare them to us at a 5 year look back the investors have voted and AAL is the loser:
American down 31%
Alaska up 57%
Southwest up 65%
JetBlue up 47%
Delta up 59%
Even United is up 77%

There is nobody to blame but themselves. They have instituted every plan they desired. Every policy. Every trick or gimmick. They’ve bought billions back of stock and the price still lags competitors badly. They close the door on customers 10 prior yet our metrics do not lead the industry. They give lip service to “culture”. They overbook flights and hubs, they cancel flights, they communicate poorly to customers. They’ve got the operation that they planned for and implemented. 100% it’s their operation. It’s what they wanted.
Totally agree with your post but your numbers are off if you’re talking stock price.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Totally agree with your post but your numbers are off if you’re talking stock price.
How so? I didn’t get A’s in math.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear View Post
How so? I didn’t get A’s in math.
Looked at DL and UAL stock prices today and 5 years ago. Everyone is up (except us) but us but not at those percentages.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:48 PM
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http://schrts.co/pvSHNtnD

This is what I used to calculate. Some of my numbers were off by a bit. This chart shows AA down 20% not 31% like I had said. Others on the chart like DAL and UAL have better performance than I showed. Their all in the ballpark though.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:51 PM
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear View Post
If you look at the airlines that are known for their relationship with employees and compare them to us at a 5 year look back the investors have voted and AAL is the loser:
American down 31%
Alaska up 57%
Southwest up 65%
JetBlue up 47%
Delta up 59%
Even United is up 77%

There is nobody to blame but themselves. They have instituted every plan they desired. Every policy. Every trick or gimmick. They’ve bought billions back of stock and the price still lags competitors badly. They close the door on customers 10 prior yet our metrics do not lead the industry. They give lip service to “culture”. They overbook flights and hubs, they cancel flights, they communicate poorly to customers. They’ve got the operation that they planned for and implemented. 100% it’s their operation. It’s what they wanted.
Very good synopsis. Spot on.
They talk a weird mind jack HR game, acting like they really care. Truth be told, this management could care less about anyone or anything but their bonus.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear View Post
If you look at the airlines that are known for their relationship with employees and compare them to us at a 5 year look back the investors have voted and AAL is the loser:
American down 31%
Alaska up 57%
Southwest up 65%
JetBlue up 47%
Delta up 59%
Even United is up 77%

There is nobody to blame but themselves. They have instituted every plan they desired. Every policy. Every trick or gimmick. They’ve bought billions back of stock and the price still lags competitors badly. They close the door on customers 10 prior yet our metrics do not lead the industry. They give lip service to “culture”. They overbook flights and hubs, they cancel flights, they communicate poorly to customers. They’ve got the operation that they planned for and implemented. 100% it’s their operation. It’s what they wanted.
Nailed it. I just had a conversation about this on a transcon.

We need new leadership here.
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cicada View Post
Very good synopsis. Spot on.
They talk a weird mind jack HR game, acting like they really care. Truth be told, this management could care less about anyone or anything but their bonus.

'Couldn't care less.'
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