Floobs

Considering that us military has done more harm than good in the pay few decades (Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan) yes I think the world and the us population would be better off if that money was used domestically. We don’t need the first and second largest air forces in the world.

DarinFred

Yep! Probably furloughed...

DarinFred

Well, I guess that depends on your perspective. You must have a crystal ball...

Name User

For sure...

cocktimusprime

Bwahahaha! Says the guy who immediately aims low and questions a civilian’s ability to work a rudder with “clown shoes?” And then insults me by suggesting only military folks deserve his respect(my wife). Really shows your bias, Gucci.

None of my posts have disrespected the military/guard people. I simply stated how myself and MANY pilots feel about it. I order you to kindly unwad your panties.

GucciBoy

So saying that these pilots are “crapping on their bros” isn’t an insult? Disagree. As to me “immediately aiming low,” my first reply to your post was simply to advise you and everyone else who shares the sentiment that guard/reserve pilots are deserving of ire for taking a small advantage from their continued service to take a step back and realize that they are choosing to do something that you chose not to do, and in so doing deserve the protections/advantages afforded them by USERRA. I didn’t imply that you were clownish until you replied to my message saying that it was “disingenuous” for guard/reserve pilots to do so.

To recap, you DID disrespect military pilots when you said that taking a legal LOA to serve in a military capacity amounts to defecating on their fellow pilots, and I DID NOT immediately aim low when I insinuate that you wear shoes that are inordinately larger than your feet, and in so doing might have difficulty landing in a crosswind.

You and I are just two people on an Internet forum, so I admit I don’t know enough about you to make any character judgments, but I’m sorry I can’t respect you if you admit that you think that guard/reserve pilots are acting in bad faith when they go on mil leave to do a job you are either too selfish or too chickensh*t to do yourself.










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drifterf16

Ummm, they deploy all the time. Get shot at. Mortared. Rocketed. Gone from their families for months at a time over holidays, birthdays, anniversaries etc. Risk their lives flying over hostile forces that will kill and torture them if captured. Yeah, it’s a scam. Kinda myopic view if you’re truly a guard guy. Can their service and sacrifice work out as a positive with a civilian employer? Absolutely. Ask some of these folks if it feels like a scam while they’re sitting in some $hithole with the “incoming sirens” wailing, knowing they’re not gonna see their loved ones for 3-6 months... If they come home in a box draped in a flag, as some do, was it a scam then?

drifterf16

an even stop it but its a racket for sure. These guys arr not deploying overseas, they are hanging out at the unit. Once again, stupid conversation because how do you stop it?[/QUOTE]

It’s a scam? Ummm, they deploy all the time. Get shot at. Mortared. Rocketed. Gone from their families for months at a time over holidays, birthdays, anniversaries etc. Risk their lives flying over hostile forces that will kill and torture them if captured. Yeah, it’s a scam. Kinda myopic and disrespectful view. Can their service and sacrifice work out as a positive with a civilian employer? Absolutely. Is it an affront to their civilian counterparts? I guess it is to you. Ask some of these military folks if it feels like a scam while they’re sitting in some $hithole with the “incoming sirens” wailing, knowing they’re not gonna see their loved ones for 3-6 months... If they come home in a box draped in a flag, as some do, was it a scam then? Do some get more lucky with timing as far as airline hiring, reaching mil retirement or deployment schedules? Certainly. You as a pilot, of any flavor, know this whole aviation business is so much “luck and timing” despite your road to being hired at a major airline. I’m not trying to sound elite, or disrespectful of your flying background, just hopefully paint a picture of a side you clearly don’t understand.

Varsity

In my observation the entitlement mentality is confined to commissioned officers/pilots. Plenty of airline pilots are still in the guard/reserves in pogue units. I've never heard one brag/plot reserve duties to intentionally conflict with undesirable flying obligations to the company.

isuguy

Standard, some bad apples on all sides when u have a barrel/bushel/basket of 15,000.