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Old 11-14-2019, 06:13 PM   #21  
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Sshhh. Dont let the secret out. Let the laZy people think it cant be done.
Lazy? I try swap my 5 day trip every morning every afternoon. Every evening.
I own that trip. Sick is the only flexibility. Then I lose 25 hours sick time.
Two of those a year and your almost out.
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:37 PM   #22  
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You work 5-10 days a month? How many days are you sitting next to the phone?



By your measure, I get 30 days off every month I bid reserve.
On call 17 days a month, 4-5 days at a time. I don't mind "sitting next to the phone" when they only use me <50% of the time. When you live less than an hour a way, short call is not a bad gig. If you are a commuter and get stuck with PHL 190, it sucks, but if you are local, it's arguably the best deal in the system for a newhire especially if get withheld on it for 1-2 years. Some of us picked the 190 as newhires for a reason.

As what was said before, it is hard to make up time on the 190. Short legs. So the reserves don't get abused too much. The little Bus is a different story and why I am in no rush to move on. As a local living in base, I see no reason to bid a line on the 190. Four 4-day trips doing 4-5 legs a day between BOS-DCA-LGA-RDU will be your life for 16 days a month to end up with 85 hrs when you can work 5-8 days a month for 76. A lot of the short calls end up being day turns also. Again, short call is a different life in the AB. Not sure how long it takes to hold LC on the 190.
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On call 17 days a month, 4-5 days at a time. I don't mind "sitting next to the phone" when they only use me <50% of the time. When you live less than an hour a way, short call is not a bad gig. If you are a commuter and get stuck with PHL 190, it sucks, but if you are local, it's arguably the best deal in the system for a newhire especially if get withheld on it for 1-2 years. Some of us picked the 190 as newhires for a reason.

As what was said before, it is hard to make up time on the 190. Short legs. So the reserves don't get abused too much. The little Bus is a different story and why I am in no rush to move on. As a local living in base, I see no reason to bid a line on the 190. Four 4-day trips doing 4-5 legs a day between BOS-DCA-LGA-RDU will be your life for 16 days a month to end up with 85 hrs when you can work 5-8 days a month for 76. A lot of the short calls end up being day turns also. Again, short call is a different life in the AB. Not sure how long it takes to hold LC on the 190.
Unless the green book has changed you should be on call 18 days a month.
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You work 5-10 days a month? How many days are you sitting next to the phone?



By your measure, I get 30 days off every month I bid reserve.
So no, it obviously isn't 20-25 hard days off, but at the end of the day, if they didn't call me and I go about most of my business as usual, it "feels" like a day off. I haven't had being on short call negatively effect my lifestyle most of the time other than not being able to drink a beer at social events and I don't make it a habit of trying to confine myself to a certain radius.
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Unless the green book has changed you should be on call 18 days a month.
Oops yes, you are correct.
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Lazy? I try swap my 5 day trip every morning every afternoon. Every evening.
I own that trip. Sick is the only flexibility. Then I lose 25 hours sick time.
Two of those a year and your almost out.
You must be very jr, though youíve been on here a while so I didnít think so. How many 5 days are there? Are you bidding specific pairings and ending up in LN? Or generics and getting 5 days somehow. There is probably a way to avoid these through your PBS bid, unless you are 85% or higher.
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So no, it obviously isn't 20-25 hard days off, but at the end of the day, if they didn't call me and I go about most of my business as usual, it "feels" like a day off. I haven't had being on short call negatively effect my lifestyle most of the time other than not being able to drink a beer at social events and I don't make it a habit of trying to confine myself to a certain radius.

We are, or maybe you are our worst enemy.

Reserve is NOT a day off.
You are required to answer your phone. Go to the airport and go on a trip for 1-5 days.
You cannot drink a beer.
You have to be fit for duty if called.
Etc....

Yes you may be able to run errands and do things. But it is not a day off. Please do not call it that.
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Lazy? I try swap my 5 day trip every morning every afternoon. Every evening.
I own that trip. Sick is the only flexibility. Then I lose 25 hours sick time.
Two of those a year and your almost out.
You have to be willing to do what I call "blowing up my schedule", meaning I will trade a 5 day to something else, anything else that isn't a 5 day, even if if it's over days that I "need off" just to get rid of the 5 days. Even redeyes because if it's not a 5 day and then I've just cleared a day off my calendar! I have been awarded 5 day trips in Sept Oct and Nov and flew zero of them with no sick calls. I wish I was bidding against CAs because most I fly with really have no clue how to work it, the FOs in CLT for the most part know the game and make it a little harder with all the competition...but in CLT there are SOOOOOO many trips it at least makes it a little easier I guess....ok I've already said too much
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So no, it obviously isn't 20-25 hard days off, but at the end of the day, if they didn't call me and I go about most of my business as usual, it "feels" like a day off. I haven't had being on short call negatively effect my lifestyle most of the time other than not being able to drink a beer at social events and I don't make it a habit of trying to confine myself to a certain radius.
So for the new guy, you get 12-13 days off.
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You have to be willing to do what I call "blowing up my schedule", meaning I will trade a 5 day to something else, anything else that isn't a 5 day, even if if it's over days that I "need off" just to get rid of the 5 days. Even redeyes because if it's not a 5 day and then I've just cleared a day off my calendar! I have been awarded 5 day trips in Sept Oct and Nov and flew zero of them with no sick calls. I wish I was bidding against CAs because most I fly with really have no clue how to work it, the FOs in CLT for the most part know the game and make it a little harder with all the competition...but in CLT there are SOOOOOO many trips it at least makes it a little easier I guess....ok I've already said too much
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