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Old 12-02-2019, 08:12 PM   #1  
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Default PHX or LAX more commuter friendly?

Iím a new hire on the 320 in LAX, Iíll be commuting out of SAT or AUS. Which base PHX or LAX would be the most commuter friendly? I see PHX is way more senior, but LA is more expensive. Iím trying to find out which base would offer the better qol as a junior FO on reserve. I would appreciate any advice you may have.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:20 PM   #2  
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I think you hit it. LAX will probably offer better QOL due to quicker seniority and a few more flights per day for the commute. But, LAX is more expensive, hotels are more expensive and you will pay .9% CA disability tax capped at about $1200 a year.
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It looks like a lot more options to commute on AA metal to PHX, only directs from SAT are on Eagle, and only 2 a day. Youíll be able to hold PHX within 6 months probably, but seniority will be slower there...
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I would say as a jr rsv PHX would be better, however by the time you could hold PHX you would probably be a block holder in LAX I think. But if you can get PHX while you are still a rsv in both bases I would go there.
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PHX is going to new hires? I thought that was very senior.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:42 AM   #6  
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Some of the guys in my new hire class have already been awarded PHX, thatís why I was considering putting a bid in for it. I think I may give LA a chance for a while and see how I like it though.
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PHX is the most Senior Group 2 CA base, but a fairy Junior Group 2 FO base. Bottom FO is 15,XXX. LAX has some of the most expensive and crappy hotels with only LGA competing. There are tons of trips starting with red eyes from both LAX and PHX so commuting on the front end should not be too hard, but many trips get back late and you may be forced into a hotel or crash pad at either base. PHX has some of the best values for close hotels of any base. I would look to see which Iíd remit her you could sit LCR from home at given the commuting options.
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A few years ago I commuted from SMF. The flights to PHX were all mainline, and LAX was all RJs. Even though there were half as many flights to PHX the commute was easier being able to reserve the jumpseat. I had much better seniority at LAX but would often get non commutable on one end 2 day trips. In PHX Iíd get very commutable 4 day trips. They all started with a redeye but all my LAX trips had those too. My QOL at 90% in PHX was better than 60% in LAX. Decent hotels arenít hard to find for $50-60/night in PHX, except during spring training.
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I think the only change to the above is that with ACD more trips in PHX (and likely everywhere else) have later end times on the last day making commutes home harder. Iíve seen a lot of trips that get back to PHX in the late afternoon just to have a turn on the end making the last day end around 2200 with the last day having >8hrs of flying. Iíd still expect PHX may be the better choice if just due to cheaper clean hotels.
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LAX hotels are expensive. Crashpads can be pricier than other bases.
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