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Old 03-11-2020, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
Just to clarify the Flow-Thru program in place between AA/Envoy/et al, my understanding if AA furloughs, those AA pilots can Flow-BACK to AA regional partners, versus be sent to the street.

Correct ?

I may have this all incorrect, just wanted to clarify
only if a person washes out of training can they flow back to PSA.
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Old 03-11-2020, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
AA/Delta/United will be just fine. They are essential for the US economy and thus the government can not let them fail. These airlines are required for industry and government. Without these airlines, the economy and government of the US collapse. Much like the big banks and the auto industry.

I don't think that the same is true for the ULCC's, but the legacy airlines will be just fine.
Thats true the government would never let them go bankrupt, destroy shareholder value and furlough thousands. Where is my eye roll emoji
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Old 03-11-2020, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 5and20 View Post
Thats true the government would never let them go bankrupt, destroy shareholder value and furlough thousands. Where is my eye roll emoji
I know right???

Plan for the worst and hope for the best. It's unfortunate that some will most likely be furloughed out of this (I hope I'm wrong), but that was the known risk with "having the flow in your back pocket" and making it your primary plan of action as opposed to a contingency. Sooner or later the music was going to stop and it sucks to be at the bottom when that happens.
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Old 03-11-2020, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer View Post
It says if you flow to AA and washout of training then you can return to your previous status with seniority.

I wouldn't worry last time US Airways or AA furloughed they sent pilots with some seniority to their WO company's, no one wants to spend negotiating capital until there is a need.

The way they've treated WO with profit sharing, flow, and flight benifits, it would be completely out of character for AA pilots to hit the streets.
The last time AA furloughed there was a flow back agreement in place, there is none at this moment, and although the W.O are jus that wholly owned, however they do have different pilot unions, so NO Flow backs for AA pilots at this time.

Ask the flow back CAs that were at Envoy the moment letter 3 expired, they were immediately displaced to FOs to wherever their DOH at Envoy seniority would allow them to hold.
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Old 03-11-2020, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by paulhood View Post
however they do have different pilot unions, so NO Flow backs for AA pilots at this time.
And that is the heart of the matter right there
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
AA/Delta/United will be just fine. They are essential for the US economy and thus the government can not let them fail. These airlines are required for industry and government. Without these airlines, the economy and government of the US collapse. Much like the big banks and the auto industry.

I don't think that the same is true for the ULCC's, but the legacy airlines will be just fine.
And just like that Socialism is cool again.
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Old 03-12-2020, 04:14 AM
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Are the flow throughs looking for an insurance policy. Call geico.
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Old 03-12-2020, 09:57 AM
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The way people are reacting, a flow will be the last of your concerns.
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Old 03-12-2020, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8 View Post
Are the flow throughs looking for an insurance policy. Call geico.
There gonna call you. Take it or leave it. Which means take or else, which means it doesn't even need to go to a pilot wide vote since it's not a major change.
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Old 03-13-2020, 03:48 AM
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Pretty cute how 3 weeks ago the OTS hires at AA wanted to cancel the flow. Now they want to flow back to the W/O’s.
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