Compass to cease operations
 

We're out... but the memes will continue

Cool, this is a repost of the same thread in ten other forumdu

It deserves the reposts. Its a huge deal.

Not in this forum.
Glad to see another commuter gone as hopefully this will cause that flying to return to mainline.

500 pilots on the street and you are glad to see it. Shows your character right there.

Thats a dbag thing to say. Wishing pilots on the street? Classy

Builds character.
Gets you a better job.
Puts another commuter out of biz.
Hopefully jobs return to mainline, after all the aircraft you were flying did not belong to you.
Better to be furloughed in your early days than your later days.
One day you will understand.

And, go back to your own board.

Why, because the majority of that flying was done by mainline yrs ago.
Until events occurred that allowed management to buy the 45-90 seaters and now around 50% of domestic departures are done by a C-D scale.

Mainline pilots sold the scope compass was flying to get bigger paychecks.

This is my forum. You're an *******. Period.
Builds character? People need to be laid off to "build character"?
While I want the flying to return to mainline, I don't want it at the expense of another pilot group. We should absorb it back. With the pilots and flight attendants.

Thedude,

You are ridiculous. Karma might come to bite you one day.

Up until now, I had respect for you. Not so much any more. Your second post doubling down on your first just showed your character.

Try having some compassion for those about to be out of work.

Fixed it. What an a$$hat

Not only are you a prick you are clueless as well. Compass going out of business has no bearing on scope. Planes went to Envoy (unfortunately) like they were promised years ago during the bankruptcy. BTW- Nobody at Envoy wanted those planes if it contributed to Compasses closing its doors.

Is this true? Ive thought regional pilots would love 737s and 320s to be regional airplanes. They would pay $5-7 more than the E-175 or CRJ-700 and go super senior.

Is there any validity to the point that more regional pay positons actually lower pilot pay for the group as a whole?

This is a shame. The compass guys and gals I talked to on my commute are super nice people. Good luck to all of them.

Regional jobs pay less. Mainline jobs pay more.

More regional jobs means more pilots paid less money. More mainline jobs means more pilots getting paid more money. It's that simple.


I'm happy for you that you got picked up by AA. You should use this time in between class to beef up on the importance of scope in terms of the protection of your job, and the betterment of all your fellow pilots.

Sounds like you never flew a day as a regional pilot.

Lol unbelievable.

Anyways, thanks for the well wishes all! We had a good time having you guys in our JS. Thanks for all the advice and recs along the way to all of us

^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

What's going on at Compass is similar to the other regional-feed operations that run on a very tight shoe-string.

The financial model at just about all of the feed operations is stressed even without pandemic stress.

if the main-line carriers care about:
1. Reliability of their product
2. Quality of their product\
3. influence and control over their network

Then, maybe they may bring in more flying. Scope clauses or not....They get away with what labor has allowed them to get away with. Recall this...........RJ's were supposed to ONLY OPEN new markets for their mainline carriers, not supplement, and not replace. What's happened over the last 25 years is a bait-and-switch by mainline managements.

No one wants to see fellow professional and aspiring aviators be out of work. But, the mainline carriers put these airlines in these positions. Mainline carriers, at the end of the day negotiate the prices, profits, and wages, and financial conditions under which the regionals survive and/or thrive.

The same thing is going on in Europe right now. US Regionals/feeders are not immune to tight finances. Those operations with a stronger/and softer cushion can absorb pandemics, or whatever emergencies come their way.

Compass was simply not in a financial position (A position their benefactors put them in) to weather the storm.

It will happen to others I am afraid.

If only we had bailout money for our financial problems

This is an example (extreme) of the RJ whipsaw at its worst . ANY RJ outfit can be shutdown on short notice . The best regional this week could be toast tomorrow . We , the mainline guys are the only ones that can possibly put a big dent in the outsourcing going forward . Sadly , I don’t think we as a group have it in us . I am damn sure not interested in any scope gives (ANY) in this latest goat rope !! I rode on compass several times and they always treated me really well . Good luck going forward .