Delta Memo
05-16-2020, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
7000 overstaffed for fall 2020 yes, but this bid is based on 2022. 2000 displacements on the bid that just came out. We’re projected to have 10-11k pilots in the future, early retirement package to come soon to help mitigate furloughs.
As far as delta goes we have 40,000 employees who are on unpaid leave, and 14 billion cash on hand, we’re in pretty good shape.
As far as delta goes we have 40,000 employees who are on unpaid leave, and 14 billion cash on hand, we’re in pretty good shape.
05-16-2020, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
the weird thing is we aren’t that different. We just bled a lot of the top while everyone else is looking at just hacking off the bottom of their list. Add to the fact that delta was almost the same size pilot group with a hundred less airframes and we aren’t too different.
05-16-2020, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying101
As per their SVP... 7000 overstaffed for fall of 2020.. 2500-3500 come Q3 2021
05-17-2020, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
The Fall 2020 number is just a snap at the end of the CARES Act protection. As others have alluded to, the Delta AE manning for the network outlook that was released a couple of day ago to run through May 2021 appears to be a 2000ish furlough with no mitigating factors whatsoever. The hostages have been identified. Management will be by with their demands shortly....
05-17-2020, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelsch
Hey dog poo, I’ve been at AA for 6+ years. I am prepared for and may get furloughed. Are you happy now?
05-17-2020, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
I am just curious how you think you are going to get furloughed without things getting far worse then projected? Not trolling just curios based on the bid I am in the first two hundred to go based on the last bid. I have been here a a year and half and have 1180 active pilots below me.
05-17-2020, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
I am just curious how you think you are going to get furloughed without things getting far worse then projected? Not trolling just curios based on the bid I am in the first two hundred to go based on the last bid. I have been here a a year and half and have 1180 active pilots below me.
Throw in an election, where Senate control is up for graps as well as White House.
It's not like the economy is stuck at a red light that won't turn green until October, but will definitely turn green.
IMO stock market hasent yet baked in pricing from massive 401k contribution reductions. The current 30M on unemplouement are probably the smallest percentage of 401k savers pumping money in every month.
Politicians now don't want to open up. Did we fatten the curve? Have hospitals been over run and we need makeshift hospitals in high school gyms?
We're currently moving the goal post instead of
claiming victory, now we need 0 new transmissions in a country of 300m to claim victory.
Eventually the CDC will need to "bless" recreational travel, and no one as determined what criteria will be met for that. Why would public sector want to stick its neck out for private sector.
Will Dr. Anthony Fauci ever get on national TV and say it is as safe as it ever was for boomers to get on airplanes.
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05-17-2020, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
Because things have to get so much better than the status quo right now.
Throw in an election, where Senate control is up for graps as well as White House.
It's not like the economy is stuck at a red light that won't turn green until October, but will definitely turn green.
IMO stock market hasent yet baked in pricing from massive 401k contribution reductions. The current 30M on unemplouement are probably the smallest percentage of 401k savers pumping money in every month.
Politicians now don't want to open up. Did we fatten the curve? Have hospitals been over run and we need makeshift hospitals in high school gyms?
We're currently moving the goal post instead of
claiming victory, now we need 0 new transmissions in a country of 300m to claim victory.
Eventually the CDC will need to "bless" recreational travel, and no one as determined what criteria will be met for that. Why would public sector want to stick its neck out for private sector.
Will Dr. Anthony Fauci ever get on national TV and say it is as safe as it ever was for boomers to get on airplanes.
Throw in an election, where Senate control is up for graps as well as White House.
It's not like the economy is stuck at a red light that won't turn green until October, but will definitely turn green.
IMO stock market hasent yet baked in pricing from massive 401k contribution reductions. The current 30M on unemplouement are probably the smallest percentage of 401k savers pumping money in every month.
Politicians now don't want to open up. Did we fatten the curve? Have hospitals been over run and we need makeshift hospitals in high school gyms?
We're currently moving the goal post instead of
claiming victory, now we need 0 new transmissions in a country of 300m to claim victory.
Eventually the CDC will need to "bless" recreational travel, and no one as determined what criteria will be met for that. Why would public sector want to stick its neck out for private sector.
Will Dr. Anthony Fauci ever get on national TV and say it is as safe as it ever was for boomers to get on airplanes.
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