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Old 05-28-2020, 09:47 AM
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I have had my gripes about AA in the past. That said I am proud of how AA treated this class.
so your proud that AA is saying take the class or turn down the class because in OCT you will be the first ones furloughed? Why force them to make that choice. If it was me I would be forced to stay at my current job and turn down AA.....that’s crap.
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:53 AM
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so your proud that AA is saying take the class or turn down the class because in OCT you will be the first ones furloughed? Why force them to make that choice. If it was me I would be forced to stay at my current job and turn down AA.....that’s crap.
Wouldn’t this indicate they don’t anticipate furloughs? I mean logically since it’ll cost them more money to bring them in.
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:14 AM
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so your proud that AA is saying take the class or turn down the class because in OCT you will be the first ones furloughed? Why force them to make that choice. If it was me I would be forced to stay at my current job and turn down AA.....that’s crap.
Yes I am. These guys are already on the payroll from March. If AA had pulled the rug from them a lot of them would have already resigned from their previous employers and would have been without a job in March. So here they have their seniority number got paid for six months. If they had cancelled the class the class would have had like 4-5 days notice. It’s not like they were just given a CJO this class was the last class through the door in March.
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Yes I am. These guys are already on the payroll from March. If AA had pulled the rug from them a lot of them would have already resigned from their previous employers and would have been without a job in March. So here they have their seniority number got paid for six months. If they had cancelled the class the class would have had like 4-5 days notice. It’s not like they were just given a CJO this class was the last class through the door in March.
DUI Dougie is pretending everything is fine is dumb

waste of money to train them

once again his employees will be broadsided if furloughs occur

ceo said he is not looking at bankruptcy...he better be at least considering it as a leader.

history repeats itself

time for a new leader
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Old 05-28-2020, 11:27 AM
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so your proud that AA is saying take the class or turn down the class because in OCT you will be the first ones furloughed? Why force them to make that choice. If it was me I would be forced to stay at my current job and turn down AA.....that’s crap.
Would you rather be furloughed from a regional or a Legacy? They are ALREADY on property, which means they already resigned from their previous employer.
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Old 05-28-2020, 11:30 AM
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DUI Dougie is pretending everything is fine is dumb

waste of money to train them

once again his employees will be broadsided if furloughs occur

ceo said he is not looking at bankruptcy...he better be at least considering it as a leader.

history repeats itself

time for a new leader
What? This has nothing to do with furloughs. These are folks who in many cases had quit their previous work. The goal is to get them a seniority number, even include them in some of the bailout payments, then even if furloughed they should be able to get unemployment which may be lengthened the way it was last time etc.

You realize that if you've quit your previous employer you do not get unemployment?

I just see this a courtesy to a group that might otherwise have ended up totally hosed (and will still end up pretty hosed given most left from higher seniority to lower). Am I missing something? Why does this mean there would be no furloughs?

That said, AA does seem to be doing a fair number of early outs compared to other airlines. This class would have been TRIVIAL to drop entirely to save some $$ by the company - they are def not "needed" at current staffing needs.
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Old 05-28-2020, 11:44 AM
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I said something to this effect on some other thread, but American Airlines (AA) has definitely bought some goodwill with me recently.
I think we are all feeling this way. American/Parker is doing it right.
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What? This has nothing to do with furloughs. These are folks who in many cases had quit their previous work. The goal is to get them a seniority number, even include them in some of the bailout payments, then even if furloughed they should be able to get unemployment which may be lengthened the way it was last time etc.

You realize that if you've quit your previous employer you do not get unemployment?

I just see this a courtesy to a group that might otherwise have ended up totally hosed (and will still end up pretty hosed given most left from higher seniority to lower). Am I missing something? Why does this mean there would be no furloughs?

That said, AA does seem to be doing a fair number of early outs compared to other airlines. This class would have been TRIVIAL to drop entirely to save some $$ by the company - they are def not "needed" at current staffing needs.
Youre not missing anything man. There’s a lot of haters out there who want AA to fail. Being furloughed sucks! But I rather be furloughed from a Legacy then from a regional. Let’s hope we avoid furloughs all together.
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What? This has nothing to do with furloughs. These are folks who in many cases had quit their previous work. The goal is to get them a seniority number, even include them in some of the bailout payments, then even if furloughed they should be able to get unemployment which may be lengthened the way it was last time etc.

You realize that if you've quit your previous employer you do not get unemployment?

I just see this a courtesy to a group that might otherwise have ended up totally hosed (and will still end up pretty hosed given most left from higher seniority to lower). Am I missing something? Why does this mean there would be no furloughs?

That said, AA does seem to be doing a fair number of early outs compared to other airlines. This class would have been TRIVIAL to drop entirely to save some $$ by the company - they are def not "needed" at current staffing needs.

This no one got hired recently this is just training our last class. I think some people have latched onto this as proof we won’t furlough. We are 1328 over staffed for next summer but if you furloughed all 1300 half would need to be back within about a year to be ready for 2022 summer. If you just keep that demand static with 2021. Between early outs and regular retirements we lost over a 1000 pilots this year already. Add understaffing to the mix and well who knows.
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All you guys and gals with positive comments need to stop and listen to all the haters (Other airline and those unhirable). AA is hiring as many as they can so they can liquidate. The airline will be broken up. All wide body aircraft will go to Skywest and Alaska, narrow bodies will go to Mesa and Delta. I know this, because I have an in at the airline, and I'm not just a pilot, but am a super super smart analyst, and I'm rich, and tall........... and my wife is hot...... and ....... Oh and by the way **Sarcasm Alert** for you other super smart pilot/non-pilots.
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