Probably, my bet is we’re out of the 777 entirely in 3 years.


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United reversed the decision to close the 777/787 base in LAX following Americans decision to pull out of so much international flying. United sees an opportunity. Just a few weeks after Vasu’s interview where he claimed to be excited about gaining market share on the backend of the Pandemic. Instead AA will have completely lost the west coast. With the exception of three flights out of Seattle and a trickle out of LA. Disappointing.

You're probably right about the 777-200s with 787-9 one for one replacements already on order. At less than 10 years old and our best range/payload A/C, I doubt the 777-300s are going anywhere anytime soon unless we order more 787-9s.

Did they give the 777 another city since it’s pulled HKG? Or is it just going to be going to London?

United made that decision a few weeks before we made our intl cuts announcement. United is keeping that position open at LAX to support the cargo operation.


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No shortage of airframes. Six 772 going to ROW for long term storage. Have heard major mods required might keep them from returning. I agree with the earlier poster. Most if not all 47 772 will probably be gone in the next 3-5 years. Hopefully the 77W while only 20 in number will hold on. If 787 8, 9, and maybe 10's? come as planned there's no reason to keep 20 plus year old planes around. If LHR ever comes back, that should be the primary domain for whatever of the fleet is left. MIA, DFW, LAX, JFK, PHX, RDU, and now CLT and hopefully BOS are still planning to use them. Future bookings will tell the tale.

United wants to resume LAX-SYD. The only way they can fly it is with a LAX based crew since it is an FRMS route. Hence, not closing the 787 base there as was announced just a few months ago. The fact that American is pulling down so much LAX international is just a side benefit.

Will SEA-BLR be a FRMS route requiring a SEA crew base (500 NM longer than LAX-SYD)?

I have no idea if American will apply for it to be one. I’m a United guy.

FRMS is not just about the distance/ block time but about the associated risks involved to that specific route and builds in mitigating factors. Currently the FRMS routes for United are California-SYD, California-SIN, California-MEL, IAH-SYD, SFO-DEL, EWR-CPT. EWR-BOM, GUM-IHOP.

Eating pancakes is dangerous in Guam?