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Old 10-26-2020, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterGriffin View Post
Yeah, I totally get it, but, just saying, compared to April, when O’hare was a ghost town, it’s coming back...painfully slow, but people seem to be thinking, just mask up and go...just an observation from someone who’s been riding on you guys maybe once a month or so through this whole thing...I don’t get to see it on a day to day basis like you guys do, though.

April/May the passenger numbers were a low as 5-10% of normal.

Last couple months they have been around 25-35%

The problem is twofold:

1. Numbers are holding steady/increasing very slowly
2. Business travel is down 90% so revenue is way down

massive furloughs are inevitable if this continues.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:24 AM
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It is better to be 5 feet underwater than 50 feet underwater but only because air is closer, not because you can survive there.

that’s the situation
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......and no I’m not bitter.........So best of luck to ya but I don’t give a rats ass what happens to your place.
Uuummmmmm.........
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Old 10-26-2020, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli View Post
Who cares what you think...
You came to the AA forum...

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I first experienced the warm-ness of AA pilots 25yr ago...
Let it go, that was 25 years ago.

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So best of luck to ya but I don’t give a rats ass what happens to your place.
Right, that's why you're on the AA forum posting this crap?

Hope you found a good career somewhere else, but holding on this bitterness? What's the point? Best wishes to you and your family despite your hostility.
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Old 10-26-2020, 09:52 AM
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You came to the AA forum...



Let it go, that was 25 years ago.



Right, that's why you're on the AA forum posting this crap?

Hope you found a good career somewhere else, but holding on this bitterness? What's the point? Best wishes to you and your family despite your hostility.
Page one of his post history shows he’s with Frontier.

Unlike him, I wish him, his fellow employees, and Frontier success going forward. For whatever reason, he wishes the opposite on a group of employees at an airline he viewed (probably rightly so) as arrogant TWENTY FIVE years ago. Regardless that most who were pilots at AA twenty five years ago are now long gone, I guess he still wishes ill will on our group and our airline.
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You said “tug jobs”.
I have nothing to add. I just thought this was the best part of this entire thread.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT View Post
It is better to be 5 feet underwater than 50 feet underwater but only because air is closer, not because you can survive there.

that’s the situation

Using that metaphor, every airline is underwater, just A matter of what depth they are at .
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro View Post
April/May the passenger numbers were a low as 5-10% of normal.

Last couple months they have been around 25-35%

The problem is twofold:

1. Numbers are holding steady/increasing very slowly
2. Business travel is down 90% so revenue is way down

massive furloughs are inevitable if this continues.
The problem with shrinking is how do you service debt? All of the legacies will have to contend with this question… AA is at the most immediate extreme risk in my opinion. But if AA goes to bankruptcy and manages to survive the other legacies will likely follow. However if AA goes into bankruptcy and does not survive, then I think the other legacies will be okay for now. They would still have massive debt to worry about but perhaps a realistic hope of paying it.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mozam View Post
Using that metaphor, every airline is underwater, just A matter of what depth they are at .
well, the part where the metaphor breaks down is that one person drowning will give everyone else more air to breathe

but the key point is that “it’s getting better” doesn’t mean bad things won’t happen
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Originally Posted by atooraya View Post
Parker already said the people flying are the people who are buying super cheap tickets. You can’t sustain an airline like AA running Spirit or Frontier’s ticket prices.
I’m traveling for business so I don’t do the economy fare that can’t be changed. The tickets I’m buying do not seem to be discounted much at all. What has changed for my consumer bracket is the reduction in miles,$ & segments for higher tiers of the advantage program.

I wish you guys the best. I was in the us air ecosystem with republic and the post merger AA world with PSA. Hard to see such bad times affecting so many people I care about.
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