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Old 10-08-2020, 11:43 AM
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Well I guess thanks for reaffirming my opinion that you’re being dramatic. Those aren’t the odds (tell that to the 777 crew who contracted Covid in the spring) and you can hear just fine. Maybe spring for something a little better then a Telex 750? And so if someone has a sick/at risk spouse at home and for their own peace of mind they request you wear a mask, you’re going to say no? Cool man...

People like you need to stop making this job harder then it has to be.

You prove they contracted it in the cockpit and not at a restaurant or bar then we'll talk.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797 View Post
Well I guess thanks for reaffirming my opinion that you’re being dramatic. Those aren’t the odds (tell that to the 777 crew who contracted Covid in the spring) and you can hear just fine. Maybe spring for something a little better then a Telex 750? And so if someone has a sick/at risk spouse at home and for their own peace of mind they request you wear a mask, you’re going to say no? Cool man...

People like you need to stop making this job harder then it has to be.

I am concerned for the safety of the hundred or so paying passengers in the back. If the other pilot is concerned about someone at home that pilot is welcome to pass on the flight and a reserve pilot can take over. I stated that in my first post on the subject. No harm no foul.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:58 AM
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Do we have to have our mask on while we are in our hotel room on a layover? I’m not sure so I have just been leaving mine on.
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Old 10-08-2020, 12:04 PM
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Do we have to have our mask on while we are in our hotel room on a layover? I’m not sure so I have just been leaving mine on.

Only in the car when driving alone and talking on your handheld cell phone.

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Old 10-08-2020, 12:22 PM
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Safety stats are abysmal by 121 standards. We don't fly inverted or in form either.

And do you really wear it all the time?
The mask? Absolutely not. But once you’ve flown the Atlantic just once in a poopy suit, helmet, harness, water wings, etc., sitting on top a survival kit and ejection seat, having to hear people grouse about wearing a cloth mask (Or even headphones)on a big wide comfortable flight deck gets a little tedious. I’m sure that goes double for the Pacific too, even island hopping. I wouldn’t wear a cloth mask up front either, UNLESS THE OTHER GUY/GAL ASKED ME TOO, because I think the risk is minimal. But if it’s going to make them paranoid for me to not wear a mask, I’d certainly rather wear one then distract the other person, because that actually might be a safety issue.
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Old 10-08-2020, 12:28 PM
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The mask? Absolutely not. But once you’ve flown the Atlantic just once in a poopy suit, helmet, harness, water wings, etc., sitting on top a survival kit and ejection seat, having to hear people grouse about wearing a cloth mask (Or even headphones)on a big wide comfortable flight deck gets a little tedious. I’m sure that goes double for the Pacific too, even island hopping. I wouldn’t wear a cloth mask up front either, UNLESS THE OTHER GUY/GAL ASKED ME TOO, because I think the risk is minimal. But if it’s going to make them paranoid for me to not wear a mask, I’d certainly rather wear one then distract the other person, because that actually might be a safety issue.
I tried the cloth mask with another pilot. Neither of us could communicate effectively without yelling and the controllers were having problems understanding us too. Gave it a shot, it didn't work. Maybe others have developed a way to speak that is mask friendly. I can't even understand my own son half the time when he has one on leaving school or at a store/restaurant.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot View Post
THIS!!

And no, I am not against mask mandates for public places indoors where social distancing is difficult. In a airliner cockpit where communication is critical and your odds of contracting the virus are lower than the odds of being struck by lightening, I will be going without and enhancing safety. Being part of the solution by avoiding crashes.
im pretty sure it wouldn’t take too much time to pull your mask off in an emergency. Nothing is that time critical where the half second it takes to pull off your mask is going to cause a crash.

you can just pull it off I during the startle factor of the emergency you are encountering. They’ve pretty much eliminated memory items for some fleets and gone to a QRC. It takes longer to reach for and pull out the QRC than it does to take the mask off.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot View Post
I tried the cloth mask with another pilot. Neither of us could communicate effectively without yelling and the controllers were having problems understanding us too. Gave it a shot, it didn't work. Maybe others have developed a way to speak that is mask friendly. I can't even understand my own son half the time when he has one on leaving school or at a store/restaurant.
So do you wear a headset? Or are you reading lips? I’m a big headset fan personally because I saw way too many senior officers needing hearing aids. And yeah, with the right mask a boom mike works fine.
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Using Captain's authority to force your FO to wear a mask?






Ouch
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:13 PM
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Using Captain's authority to force your FO to wear a mask?






Ouch
Right? Imagine the god complex you’d need to try to exercise your “captains authority” to prohibit the FO from doing something that the company explicitly allows them to do.
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