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Old 05-04-2021, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205 View Post
You have a pretty clear idea of what brand of flying you do most. Would be really easy to determine which airline you get priority on, or you could choose depending on your commute.

You talk about industry standard, but you guys got into another p!ssingmatch with UAL where you guys weaponized the jumpseat. And here you are doing it again. Just because your temper tantrum worked with them doesn’t mean it will work with us.

I feel like a broken record, but getting priority on all of our flights while we get priority on about half of yours is not reciprocal. Factor in that many of our planes have multiple jumpseats and it becomes even more skewed.

At the end of the day, it’s the weaponization of the jumpseat that is where you guys took a very wrong turn. It’s also what seals your legacy.
As usual you didn't address any single one of my points. Just continued the misinformation and schmear campaign. What part of "non-exclusive" do you not understand? It is RPA's business model and right now it is unique. UA and DL have no problem understanding this.

I think the truth of the matter is that you are angry that a Regional dares to stand up for what is right, which you didn't have the guts to do yourself while you were there. The problem lies within you, not Republic.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 View Post
don’t think that’s correct. I’m UA, and since we don’t own our feed, it’s broken down by “exclusive” or “non exclusive”. Since RAH is a non exclusive carrier for UAL, they go behind the exclusive carriers as far as Jumpseat priority.
Please don't add things unless you actually know. On UA we get priority over OAL after all the UA and "exclusive" regionals because we do UA flying. On AA we do not get that. If you check in for the JS on an AA flight first the Republic / SkyWest / Mesa pilot gets left behind even though they do AA flying. We want the same agreement with AA that we have with you

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Old 05-04-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LabDad06 View Post
I'm new to this thread and have only read a few posts. If I'm understanding this correctly, Republic will give Delta, United, and American priority on SOME of their flights - only involving their own metal? But... they want priority on ALL Delta, ALL United, and ALL American flights (mainline)? And they think it is unfair if they don't get priority on ALL flights? Is that about right or do I have it wrong?
DL and UA already have this Industry Standard JS agreement in place. Why are AAG pilots afraid of Industry Standard? Also, giving AAC FDJ does not harm a single AAG pilot as our priority is lower than ALL AAG pilots but ahead of OAL

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Old 05-04-2021, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 View Post
new to the thread so forgive me if this was covered earlier. What is the “Delta deal” as you called it?
DL has the same approach to JS priority as UA does. That's what is meant by DL deal

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Old 05-04-2021, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568 View Post
don’t be mistaken, there has been no change nor will there ever be
Not quite right. APA has chosen option two so AAG pilots will be Time Of Check-in (TOC) on YX AA flights so if the B6 pilot arrives at the gate before the AAG pilot now that B6 pilot will get the JS. It's the same thing that happens to YX pilots when we JS on AAG metal

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Old 05-04-2021, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey View Post
I’m just now hearing about this cat fight. First of all, do you all know exactly how many guys missed their flights in the last 2 years that this higher priority would have saved? Also, do you all know that our IT dept would be able to make this work in decs?
I'm sure our JS committee has some of the data but this is such a common occurrence that most of our pilots probably don't even file a JS complaint. I have been living in base the past few years and I'm back to commuting because my base closed. In the past couple months I have already lost out the AA JS to a F9 and a B6 pilot. So far since I started commuting I've worked 75% AA trips.

The last time YX management agreed to change the JS priority table in the FOM for our AE flights APA and AA management agreed to a band aid fix which prevented the FOM change from being implemented. Covid happened. AA IT finally had the time and resources to implement AAC FDJ and this time APA refused to even engage. As a result it is APA who has chosen the change which negatively impacts the AAG pilots. Keep in mind YX pilots are not affected by this. We are already OAL JS as far as AA is concerned

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Old 05-04-2021, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205 View Post
You have a pretty clear idea of what brand of flying you do most. Would be really easy to determine which airline you get priority on, or you could choose depending on your commute.



You talk about industry standard, but you guys got into another p!ssingmatch with UAL where you guys weaponized the jumpseat. And here you are doing it again. Just because your temper tantrum worked with them doesn’t mean it will work with us.



I feel like a broken record, but getting priority on all of our flights while we get priority on about half of yours is not reciprocal. Factor in that many of our planes have multiple jumpseats and it becomes even more skewed.



At the end of the day, it’s the weaponization of the jumpseat that is where you guys took a very wrong turn. It’s also what seals your legacy.
How exactly are we weaponizing the JS? Are AAG pilots being denied access to the YX JS? Why do you feel entitled to priority on a YX JS and not provide a bump over OAL for us like you enjoyed for years on our JS? You are welcome to the exact same priority I am afforded on AAG metal. Welcome aboard.

By the way when's the last time an AAG pilot rode a FA JS to get a JS in the FDJ? Because we do that happily to get pilots onboard.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322 View Post
DL and UA already have this Industry Standard JS agreement in place. Why are AAG pilots afraid of Industry Standard? Also, giving AAC FDJ does not harm a single AAG pilot as our priority is lower than ALL AAG pilots but ahead of OAL

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How’d you guys go about getting that agreement with UAL
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205 View Post
How’d you guys go about getting that agreement with UAL
You misunderstand the history of the agreement. SkyWest and Republic both disagreed with the proposed priority by UALPA which placed UA pilots ahead of every pilot unless it was own metal. Would you agree to a change where AA pilots go ahead of Envoy and PSA pilots on a PDT flight?

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Old 05-04-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322 View Post
By the way when's the last time an AAG pilot rode a FA JS to get a JS in the FDJ? Because we do that happily to get pilots onboard.
finally we agree on something, but I hate to say it, but YOU ARE MISINFORMED, haha...Republic guys have been saying that non-stop so I had to poke fun....we are not allowed to occupy our FA JS, reason, our FA's union refuses to sign off on it...Something to the effect of they can't sit in our cockpit JS so we don't get to sit in theirs bs....
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