Well I’m sure you wouldn’t want me lumping the entire AAG pilot group into one based on APC rants and what rogue captains do would you?

And my second question? Care to offer a real answer other than “it’s not fair”? Why can we not have above OAL priority for supporting your operation?

If you guys squashed that behavior instantly then maybe I wouldn’t talk about it so much. I’m not lumping you together, but I think that was a really awful thing to do.

Sure, I’ll bite. We get priority over OAL on your jumpseats on your eagle flights. Not United express or delta connection. We’re OAL on those, yet you want priority over OAL on every single one of our flights. Reciprocity would mean if we let you guys go above OAL on all of our flights, we would get the same. No, I’m not dumb enough to think that would ever happen or should ever happen.

The best solution is to strengthen mainline scope, bring all flying back in house, and then problems like this wouldn’t exist.

I read this thought in the other thread. At first I sympathized and thought well that’s not a totally crazy desire. But it’s not plausible considering we work for 3 codeshares. DL and UA understand this and our JS agreement reflects that. They don’t expect to have priority over AA pilots on AE Republic flights. That’s not intended to insult just to explain why we don’t understand the opposition to this... which brings me to my next point-

I can see from your other posts that you are engaging in an actual discussion on this and not being irrationally dismissive. It also seems that you feel like “in a negotiation” you are being asked to “give up” something for nothing in return? I’m going to walk out on a limb and say “we” don’t see this as a negotiation as much as fixing a broken pipe. You aren’t “losing” anything by us gaining. Your life changes in no way. Yes our lives would be made easier no doubt but only equally matched by the JS agreement with our other codeshares. This really all comes down to the JS is vital for us because our non-rev benefits are so low it’s almost useless to be able to fall back on (I’m not a non-rev guru but that’s the jist I’m getting).

I have no idea how IBT has approached APA on all this but I would have come from the position of asking for HELP and asking for an offer of goodwill from you all to make that change- again from the point of view that DL and UA seem to think it’s a normal agreement so we can support their operation just like we support yours. This doesn’t affect any AAG pilot. And I honestly can’t believe that any other OAL pilot group would make a stink about this and retaliate against AAG.

We can’t change the fact that we fly for 3 codeshares. We definitely can’t change our low non-rev statuses. We can’t change Republic’s business model that we fly multiple codeshares in a given month. Almost anything we offer you is something taken from DL and UA and that’s not fair to them.

Anyway, I’ve reached the limit of what I can say about the subject. So I appreciate the dialogue. I certainly apologize if any of my comments came across as insulting. That was not my intention. This is my second career and I love it and despite all the craziness last year this is the one decision in my entire life I am most happy about making. I have nothing but the highest respect for all pilots at all companies and when I was hired at Republic I thought it was the coolest thing that we had JS agreements with each other to help each other get to work. I told so many non-aviation friends and family about this aspect of the industry. I wish you and all the pilots who read this a very happy career and life no matter how this issue ends up.

As a bored Delta pilot I’ll offer my unsolicited but I’m sure badly needed opinion. My first thought was how the heck is this even a debate? They haul your pax, throw them a dang bone. Heck even Delta doesn’t care about Republic priority on our metal and we have 95 pages (rightly) shaming Miata owners.

Then I read Sanicoms last post and thought he had a good point. They offer priority on all their flights but get priority back on maybe a third of republic flights. It’s a disparity.....but c’mon there are lots of disparities between the regionals and the majors and it’s just the cost of doing business in most cases. We make a s$&t ton more money, our jackets have twice the breasts of their jackets, and they have way better looking FAs. It all comes out in the wash :D

LOL. Awesome comment!


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Can you provide your union communication that claims hundreds of AA pilot denials for the JS? As far as I remember this was never an authorized or official position of the YX pilot group. If it truly happened I'll take it straight to my reps and fight for you. There is zero reason for any YX pilot to be denying JS access and it definitely needs to be rectified

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Minus the international ones right?

Crickets. Where's the official APA communication on YX denying AAG pilots. I asked my union and they said yes there was a handful of rogue incidents but no we have not come anywhere close to denying JS in the massive numbers rumored by AAG pilots. If we had there would already be a JS war going on. Just like everyone we have our 3%. AAG pilots will continue to enjoy their JS priority over OAL pilots on my AE YX flights and my hope is that AAG pilots will give us reciprocity in return. If nothing can be worked out then we can all be OAL on each other's JS

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Find a quote of me saying hundreds of pilots were denied and maybe I’ll answer you. Until then, why spend time on someone who fabricates quotes by me?