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But seriously 04-26-2021 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3226911)
CJO’s are getting calls for class dates.

Do you know what those dates are? Public comms from AA have been a little vague. “Hiring this Fall” could be anything from early Sept to late Nov. I would assume it’s on the earlier side since they want to get so many through, but it would be nice to know. Thanks.

Al Czervik 04-26-2021 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3226923)
Do you know what those dates are? Public comms from AA have been a little vague. “Hiring this Fall” could be anything from early Sept to late Nov. I would assume it’s on the earlier side since they want to get so many through, but it would be nice to know. Thanks.

Some 3/20 CJO’s are getting 10/21 classes.

Western720B 04-26-2021 05:24 PM

Wonder if class sizes will be reduced for COVID issues?

Varsity 04-26-2021 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 3226920)
Why did the FedEx guy leave? That one surprises me.

Wallet was too heavy.

victormike 04-30-2021 08:19 AM

So who thinks that “for planning purposes” email they sent last week will stick? Delta moved their classes up to June and United is ahead of the game with May classes already. I don’t see how AA keeps the October dates given the progress we are seeing. If Europe decides to open up for vaccinated travelers in June/July I think they’ll hit a snag putting wides on even select routes since more narrows would
be needed to replace the domestic wide routes. The regionals are already in crisis staffing, I see that trickling over to mainline if they don’t act accordingly. I know none of you actually know anything but give me some hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is closer than it looks.

BrickTamblin 04-30-2021 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by victormike (Post 3228668)
So who thinks that “for planning purposes” email they sent last week will stick? Delta moved their classes up to June and United is ahead of the game with May classes already. I don’t see how AA keeps the October dates given the progress we are seeing. If Europe decides to open up for vaccinated travelers in June/July I think they’ll hit a snag putting wides on even select routes since more narrows would
be needed to replace the domestic wide routes. The regionals are already in crisis staffing, I see that trickling over to mainline if they don’t act accordingly. I know none of you actually know anything but give me some hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is closer than it looks.

I heard a rumor that someone in the 3/17/20 class was told to expect July. Not sure how true that is.

sanicom3205 04-30-2021 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by victormike (Post 3228668)
So who thinks that “for planning purposes” email they sent last week will stick? Delta moved their classes up to June and United is ahead of the game with May classes already. I don’t see how AA keeps the October dates given the progress we are seeing. If Europe decides to open up for vaccinated travelers in June/July I think they’ll hit a snag putting wides on even select routes since more narrows would
be needed to replace the domestic wide routes. The regionals are already in crisis staffing, I see that trickling over to mainline if they don’t act accordingly. I know none of you actually know anything but give me some hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is closer than it looks.

We are at the point that it doesn’t matter what demand is. The problem is training. I get they were freaked out and their financial situation forced their hand a bit, but we cut back pretty far. Many people who have been at AA two years don’t have a training date in sight. I know of someone who was sent home from training due to instructor availability. There are also 330 guys on leaves who have to be trained that I know of. We’ll see how it plays out but I don’t think there’s much they can do at this point. In the meantime, I’ll continue enjoying month eight of vacation

Dobbs18 04-30-2021 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3228695)
We are at the point that it doesn’t matter what demand is. The problem is training. I get they were freaked out and their financial situation forced their hand a bit, but we cut back pretty far. Many people who have been at AA two years don’t have a training date in sight. I know of someone who was sent home from training due to instructor availability. There are also 330 guys on leaves who have to be trained that I know of. We’ll see how it plays out but I don’t think there’s much they can do at this point. In the meantime, I’ll continue enjoying month eight of vacation

oh I think it will be bad starting in May, especially with everyone playing the vaccination card to get off of trips. anyone else notice after TTOT was open a few hours how trips started to drop into open time 2 at a time about 2-3 weeks apart?...yeah

El Peso 04-30-2021 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by victormike (Post 3228668)
So who thinks that “for planning purposes” email they sent last week will stick? Delta moved their classes up to June and United is ahead of the game with May classes already. I don’t see how AA keeps the October dates given the progress we are seeing. If Europe decides to open up for vaccinated travelers in June/July I think they’ll hit a snag putting wides on even select routes since more narrows would
be needed to replace the domestic wide routes. The regionals are already in crisis staffing, I see that trickling over to mainline if they don’t act accordingly. I know none of you actually know anything but give me some hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is closer than it looks.

This part was actually addressed in the latest earnings call. Long haul markets have a roughly 7-9 month long booking window. If Europe does suddenly open up, it doesn’t equate to sudden vacation bookings last minute. Those summer vacations have already been booked elsewhere (HI, FL, MEX etc). It seems that AA has pretty much decided that EU is a wash for summer 2021, excluding some markets like ATH and LHR.

ZeroTT 04-30-2021 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3228833)
. Long haul markets have a roughly 7-9 month long booking window. If Europe does suddenly open up, it doesn’t equate to sudden vacation bookings last minute. Those summer vacations have already been booked elsewhere (HI, FL, MEX etc).

boy that is some spin. 18 months of pent up demand? Europe opening up DEFINITELY will be a booking stampede


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