biigD

In the last bid the most junior MIA widebody award (allocation) went to a January 2015 hire on the 787. But like everywhere else covid put the brakes on hiring so assuming international flying gets back to normal (big assumption, I know!) it should come down from that. Just prior to covid widebody FO and narrowbody CA was being awarded at about 5 years in the junior bases.

Cheers, and good luck!

AllYourBaseAreB

No salaries in the USA. Paid by the hour. You will not have a long wait to get MIA. You will likely not see the 777/787 in MIA for 4 years and that would be extreme, but retirements will be highest the next 4 years.

AB and 737 payrates the 1st 5 years are:

1. 90
2. 137
3. 161
4. 165
5. 169

The minimum monthly pay is 72 hrs for long call reserve. 76 hrs for short call reserve. A typical lineholder these days is 72-90 hrs. A reserve cannot be assigned flying that will take them beyond 85 hrs and are on call 18 days a month. You will likely be able to have a line within a year. These “hours” are not purely flight time. They include various rigs and pay protections. You can work overtime if your seniority allows. You also get international override pay and per diem. You also get 16% of your income equivalent added to a fully vested retirement account after year 1.

conservatively, altogether I’d plan on 85k year one and 170k year 5. Zero retirement added year 1. 27k added to retirement year 5. You can add up to 19.5k every year to your retirement account yourself, tax deferred. More when you’re over 50

AllYourBaseAreB

If you work the system and find lots of premium overtime, you can semi-realistically make up to 250k starting year 3.

morerightrudder

Will just add that LAX and LGA are the most likely bases for new hires. On Day 1 you will choose in order of age.
Occasionally there will be other spots for new hires, but if MIA is your choice, be prepared to commute for at least a few months.

LimaF

How much time are you away if you are living in base vs commuting? Is it that big of a difference? Say you are working min you can and trying to maximize time at home.

FlyGuy2021

If on reserve, I would say more than twice the time away, from my experience.

Living in base and sitting reserve is great - gone for 8-9 days per month and getting min guarantee. Sitting reserve out of base is terrible, and you are away from your family about twice the number of nights.

Even being a line holder out of base isn't great because a large number of trips are not commutable on both ends. A 3 day trip turns into 4 nights away from home, and sometimes 5. If you have two trips close together, it is often better to just sit in base for a day rather than commute back and forth with 1 day off. Commuting sucks right now, with most every flight being full and all of the commuters fighting for the jumpseats.

LimaF

As a line holder in base about how many days off typically when junior? What is the trip mixes as far as the percent of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 day trips on the narrow body fleets?

Dobbs18

a junior line holder will be awarded 14-16 days off for the month typically. Our months are a mix of 30 and 31 days. Trip duration varies month to month and category to category, the percentages change monthly. But for 737/320 expect 1-5 day trips. 1 and 2 day trips go very senior with 4 and 5 day trips going to junior line holders…if you are ok working weekends you may be able to snag a 3 day trip here and there. We have a couple different systems in place that allow line holders to move/swap trips around and “improve” your schedule. Like everyone else has said, take the hourly pay rate and add three 0s and that is an easy ballpark to figure what you will make, that does not include 401k funding which would be above and beyond that short handed math. Bottom line as a junior line holder expect 4 and 5 day trips with about 14 to 16 days off. The better you learn PBS and the trip trade systems we have in place the better you will do.

Setspeed

Today is the first time I've noticed the green checkmark next to the PST (Pilot Skills Test) on the Profile Summary of the app. Anyone willing to share if they have a red X instead like the used to show on the personality test that used to be on the app?

Could just be a thanks for playing checkmark but just wondering if I could read into it a bit more, ha

Beech Dude

I am now showing PST with a green checkmark as well. Good luck.