AA Hiring?
#611
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What we are all trying to understand is what is AA’s play now with the available pilot resources. It would seem that AA’s WOs are not going to be a workable business model if things continue as expected in the industry. This is great news, but how does it play out? If AA really wants to keep the WO pilots coming to mainline, then it would seem that mainline AA needs to be a more attractive position then the competition.
#612
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going to be very interested to see. This is like some crazy combination of musical chairs and Jenga. Whichever regional folds first will put a bunch of pilots on the market and take pressure off whoever loses the least capacity.
50 seaters will get the shortest end of the stick
my bet for the WO is that Piedmont folds and the 76 seat flying comes in house to AA.
50 seaters will get the shortest end of the stick
my bet for the WO is that Piedmont folds and the 76 seat flying comes in house to AA.
#613
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going to be very interested to see. This is like some crazy combination of musical chairs and Jenga. Whichever regional folds first will put a bunch of pilots on the market and take pressure off whoever loses the least capacity.
50 seaters will get the shortest end of the stick
my bet for the WO is that Piedmont folds and the 76 seat flying comes in house to AA.
50 seaters will get the shortest end of the stick
my bet for the WO is that Piedmont folds and the 76 seat flying comes in house to AA.
Regional pilots with experience will do just about anything to not start over at another regional.
Instead of being reactionary, APA should be knocking on doors in Dallas with proposals to fix this. Everyone knows taking whats offered from skyview drive is NOT whats best for AA pilots. You currently have WO pilots getting 70k checks in AA new hire classes like its a regional. Totally bonkers.
#614
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Express Jet and Trans States died in a different environment where their capacity wasn’t needed.
Things will be very different when needed airframes are parked because of captain/lca shortages.
Whichever airline or two falter first it will quickly become a positive feedback loop with increased attrition and inability to hire.
And yes experienced regional pilots will do anything to avoid a lateral move… but that’s the problem. A shortage of experienced regional pilots. The 300-900 hr guys will probably get a lot of money thrown at them by whoever is left standing.
Things will be very different when needed airframes are parked because of captain/lca shortages.
Whichever airline or two falter first it will quickly become a positive feedback loop with increased attrition and inability to hire.
And yes experienced regional pilots will do anything to avoid a lateral move… but that’s the problem. A shortage of experienced regional pilots. The 300-900 hr guys will probably get a lot of money thrown at them by whoever is left standing.
#615
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Well first off let’s hope no one shuts down. If it were unfortunately come to that. Those pilots will be filling jobs whether at LCCs/cargo/majors/regionals spots that may have gone to other regional pilots. It definitely would not be close to enough unless it was Skywest (which it wouldn’t be) to fill the jobs.
#616
Well first off let’s hope no one shuts down. If it were unfortunately come to that. Those pilots will be filling jobs whether at LCCs/cargo/majors/regionals spots that may have gone to other regional pilots. It definitely would not be close to enough unless it was Skywest (which it wouldn’t be) to fill the jobs.
#617
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8000+ pilots being hired by the majors in the next 14 months. No way all of the regionals can survive that. Not even close.
#620
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There are a LOT of LCAs headed for other carriers. And there are a LOT of guys applying for LCA seats because they (probably correctly) assume that as soon as they add that to their Apps elsewhere that that will radically increase their chances of getting the call they want.
I can also say at PSA there are more than a few who'd like to be at AA, but are choosing other airlines because the increased hiring is seriously devaluing the flow for them. When we only flow 10 / month regardless of how many AA hires, and AA more than doubles how many they're hiring every month, that's a lot of seniority to give up.
So yeah, I think the only thing that would cut it is Seniority, and I think APA would be very reticent to allow that, or at the very least needs to leverage that for all it's worth. That said, that also requires the brain trust in DFW to see it as a problem in the first place. Given that they got rid of all the Group 1 aircraft while other airlines have added some, who knows.....
Last edited by TallFlyer; 10-24-2021 at 04:51 PM.
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