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Old 10-25-2021, 11:36 AM
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For anyone that was at RTAG, any word in if AA or any other Majors/ULCC are going to start hiring mil with rATP off the street?

As said above, I hope that's never the case. Do a touch and go at a regional to break 1500. Mil won't have to wait that long after 1500 hours, know of several hired at legacies with less than 2000TT. Know of one who got 800+ in the Navy and as soon as SHE got 1500TT at the regional, got the notification from Delta.
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Old 10-25-2021, 11:37 AM
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For anyone that was at RTAG, any word in if AA or any other Majors/ULCC are going to start hiring mil with rATP off the street?
AA and UA were both at the convention. As I recall both presenters were asked that question and both said no. They're still looking for applicants to have the minimums that are listed on their websites.
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Old 10-25-2021, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixie320 View Post
Just make them group 1. Put the 220’s in group 2.
Yah, don’t hold your breath.
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by v22guy View Post
For anyone that was at RTAG, any word in if AA or any other Majors/ULCC are going to start hiring mil with rATP off the street?
That question came up during the AA brief. BLUF: go get some fixed wing 121 time.
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Old 10-25-2021, 01:35 PM
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Anyone familiar with the recruiting candidate database and what it entails? Is this beginning of the process for the short video interview?
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 View Post
Supposedly Sun Country and Frontier are interviewing RTP directly without going to a regional first.
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Frontier is not. Sun country and iaero
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As said above, I hope that's never the case. Do a touch and go at a regional to break 1500. Mil won't have to wait that long after 1500 hours, know of several hired at legacies with less than 2000TT. Know of one who got 800+ in the Navy and as soon as SHE got 1500TT at the regional, got the notification from Delta.
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AA and UA were both at the convention. As I recall both presenters were asked that question and both said no. They're still looking for applicants to have the minimums that are listed on their websites.
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That question came up during the AA brief. BLUF: go get some fixed wing 121 time.
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Old 10-25-2021, 04:00 PM
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Unfortunately wasn’t able to attend
RTAG. Can anyone who attended educate me on what they discuss in regards to mínimums when it comes to military, civilians and a combination of reservist/civilians times.



TIA

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Old 10-25-2021, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FAIPMAFIA View Post
Unfortunately wasn’t able to attend
RTAG. Can anyone who attended educate me on what they discuss in regards to mínimums when it comes to military, civilians and a combination of reservist/civilians times.



TIA

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Fly as much as you can, they will call you when you hit their current minimums (not published). That was their recent answer to the question. They look at the "whole candidate", not just a number of hours flown. They want the best fit.

Before covid, Patty said that they would run different scenarios in the application software daily, changing parameters and they would pull different applications. Small changes in things like PIC time, advanced degrees versus bachelors only, different military criteria, etc... Each change would bring up a different list of applications that they would review. The "minimums" would change daily, sort of. They would make small changes to see what applicants would come up.
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Another question comes to mind. Is the "schedule interview" tab on airline apps for an the person interview or a virtual HR?
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Old 10-25-2021, 04:54 PM
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Agreed. Don't forget FDX.

There are a LOT of LCAs headed for other carriers. And there are a LOT of guys applying for LCA seats because they (probably correctly) assume that as soon as they add that to their Apps elsewhere that that will radically increase their chances of getting the call they want.

I can also say at PSA there are more than a few who'd like to be at AA, but are choosing other airlines because the increased hiring is seriously devaluing the flow for them. When we only flow 10 / month regardless of how many AA hires, and AA more than doubles how many they're hiring every month, that's a lot of seniority to give up.

So yeah, I think the only thing that would cut it is Seniority, and I think APA would be very reticent to allow that, or at the very least needs to leverage that for all it's worth. That said, that also requires the brain trust in DFW to see it as a problem in the first place. Given that they got rid of all the Group 1 aircraft while other airlines have added some, who knows.....
Could not agree more. When hiring 45/week and PSA only will flow 10/month. It weakens it even more. It is all about seniority.
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