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tuktukdriver 09-17-2021 05:22 AM

Commuter clause
 
Can an AA Pilot chime in and tell me what is the commuter clause at AA? Thanks in advance

Armyguy 09-17-2021 05:48 AM

No need for a back up, can be off-line or online. No specified time to get there before signin. Just don’t make it a habit and all is good.

tuktukdriver 09-17-2021 06:12 AM

Thank you! 👍

thrust 09-17-2021 05:17 PM

Also, it doesn’t have to be a flight. And you don’t have to tell Crew Scheduling anything beyond “I will not make my scheduled sign in. Mark me down as a commuter miss”. Then hang up the phone. Just don’t abuse it and it’s a non-event.

”3. Pilots who commute by other means (e.g. automobile, train, bus, etc.) shall also be covered under this policy for unforeseen events, provided they notify Crew Schedule as soon as such events become known, and the scheduled sign-in is no longer possible. Examples of such events include but are not limited to severe unforecasted weather conditions, vehicular accidents and mechanical breakdowns.”

Al Czervik 09-18-2021 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3296803)
Also, it doesn’t have to be a flight. And you don’t have to tell Crew Scheduling anything beyond “I will not make my scheduled sign in. Mark me down as a commuter miss”. Then hang up the phone. Just don’t abuse it and it’s a non-event.

”3. Pilots who commute by other means (e.g. automobile, train, bus, etc.) shall also be covered under this policy for unforeseen events, provided they notify Crew Schedule as soon as such events become known, and the scheduled sign-in is no longer possible. Examples of such events include but are not limited to severe unforecasted weather conditions, vehicular accidents and mechanical breakdowns.”

I thought it was great when 5-6 years ago a blizzard hit NYC. The company said “crew members need to be in position. A blizzard is not an unforeseen event.” Then turned right around and said “due to the blizzard being an unforeseen event (some other aspect of the contract to our favor) that section of the contract is not in effect.”

flydc 09-18-2021 10:42 AM

Expect a phone call from a chief pilot asking for an explanation and also an entry into your personnel file that supposedly will be removed after 2yrs.

flyinawa 09-18-2021 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3296956)
I thought it was great when 5-6 years ago a blizzard hit NYC. The company said “crew members need to be in position. A blizzard is not an unforeseen event.” Then turned right around and said “due to the blizzard being an unforeseen event (some other aspect of the contract to our favor) that section of the contract is not in effect.”

Ha! Classic AA.

thrust 09-19-2021 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by flydc (Post 3297069)
Expect a phone call from a chief pilot asking for an explanation and also an entry into your personnel file that supposedly will be removed after 2yrs.

I won’t expect that, but if I did get a call I’d let the call go to voicemail, forward said voicemail to my union reps, and laugh.

The chief pilot bullying isn’t common. It just isn’t.

Armyguy 09-19-2021 12:02 PM

I missed my first commute last August and I fully expected a phone call and non came. Now that’s only a sample size of one but

flydc 09-19-2021 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3297424)
I won’t expect that, but if I did get a call I’d let the call go to voicemail, forward said voicemail to my union reps, and laugh.

The chief pilot bullying isn’t common. It just isn’t.

Glad to hear it. I’ve miss-commuted twice in 5yrs and both times I got the call and PEH entry.


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