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Old 10-15-2021, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
And you need to study history... whether the courts have upheld it or not doesn't matter, because it has been put in to practice multiple times throughout the history of the republic.

I suggest starting here:

https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/nul...tion-overview/
The prime nullification example was in the 1830's, and it was never really settled...
until the civil war ended.

A state can challenge a federal law on constitutional grounds but they can't just ignore it or defy it.
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Old 10-15-2021, 08:14 AM
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I usually stop reading when someone says "do your own research", because everyone nowadays knows, that means google.
Not me. I usually point towards the sky at a 45 degree angle and shout “to the library”!
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Old 10-15-2021, 08:59 AM
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Unless you are spending a couple weeks in a research lab, I wouldn't call it "doing your own research".

It is more like "I found some other crazy guy on YouTube that told me what I already thought, so it must be true".
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Old 10-15-2021, 09:28 AM
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When the Supreme Court strikes down a law, it makes no difference? Is this truly what you’re saying?
I hate to tell you but the SCOTUS is not actually the final arbiter of the Constitution... the state governments (and ultimately The People) are. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments. I know they don't teach that in government schools.

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By the “legal definition” provided above, the Supreme Court is just that: supreme. What they rule is the law of the land, and I have laid out the precedence above that blows your argument out of the water. If they say a state law is illegal, that law no longer exists. Pretty simple here man.
Incorrect because the states created the federal government, not the other way around. The state governments are not subservient to the feds.... most of the time what you are espousing is how things normally work, but yes, there are cases and instances where the states can absolutely over ride the feds.

After all a federal court is going to mostly rule in favor of the federal government. So when a state government is wronged by the feds and cannot get relief in the federal courts, it is free to tell the feds to take a hike. This has happened many times in American history, but again, people don't understand this because it isn't taught in government schools (by design).
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
I hate to tell you but the SCOTUS is not actually the final arbiter of the Constitution... the state governments (and ultimately The People) are. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments. I know they don't teach that in government schools.

Incorrect because the states created the federal government, not the other way around. The state governments are not subservient to the feds.... most of the time what you are espousing is how things normally work, but yes, there are cases and instances where the states can absolutely over ride the feds.

After all a federal court is going to mostly rule in favor of the federal government. So when a state government is wronged by the feds and cannot get relief in the federal courts, it is free to tell the feds to take a hike. This has happened many times in American history, but again, people don't understand this because it isn't taught in government schools (by design).
Lol. Okay bud
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
After all a federal court is going to mostly rule in favor of the federal government. So when a state government is wronged by the feds and cannot get relief in the federal courts, it is free to tell the feds to take a hike. This has happened many times in American history,
I remember one time... in 1861.

That's the only recourse. But it's a good one, the current regime has apparently just decided not to pack the SCOTUS, probably because they're afraid of a repeat.


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but again, people don't understand this because it isn't taught in government schools (by design).
After I retire I need to get some of that stuff you got.
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
I hate to tell you but the SCOTUS is not actually the final arbiter of the Constitution... the state governments (and ultimately The People) are. Read the 9th and 10th Amendments. I know they don't teach that in government schools.

Incorrect because the states created the federal government, not the other way around. The state governments are not subservient to the feds.... most of the time what you are espousing is how things normally work, but yes, there are cases and instances where the states can absolutely over ride the feds.

After all a federal court is going to mostly rule in favor of the federal government. So when a state government is wronged by the feds and cannot get relief in the federal courts, it is free to tell the feds to take a hike. This has happened many times in American history, but again, people don't understand this because it isn't taught in government schools (by design).
Is crack on sale somewhere again? Because you seem to be on it. No matter what your alt right "state rights" websites tell you, they are clearly totally wrong.
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Basically, all those trips leaving DFW... 😇
So any flight originating in DFW that leaves the state of Texas is international? lol...man those 320/D pilots have it made, no wonder they want to desperately keep split divisions! haha
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So any flight originating in DFW that leaves the state of Texas is international? lol...man those 320/D pilots have it made, no wonder they want to desperately keep split divisions! haha
That is the Republic of Texas to you.🤣
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Is crack on sale somewhere again? Because you seem to be on it. No matter what your alt right "state rights" websites tell you, they are clearly totally wrong.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic
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