sanicom3205

These cancellations and delays couldn't have had anything to do with the enormous line of severe storms that barreled through our largest hub/the entire central US, could it? Looks like it's actually cloudy with severe storms and 100% chance of delusional pilots.

Al Czervik

I’d say 95% of the line will be gone in 5-7 years. The big problem is the growing division amongst the BTL crowd.

Saabs

For those of us that don’t do the book of faces, what’s the division? Let me guess, vaccinations?

Al Czervik

Not FB specific. Vaccination/politics/rsv vs line holders. Too many factions. Now the flow throughs are getting hassled for having bonuses.

Get a better contract together. I don’t care about anything else my coworkers do.

sanicom3205

I just hope people keep this stuff online and not in the cockpit. I think anyone can get along in the cockpit if we leave this stuff to the message boards or whatever

terks43

Behold the conspiracy laden stupid that has taken over America.

https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/sta...828902920?s=21

FlyyGuyy

I viewed btl as the last hope we had as a group.

Leading up to being furloughed, the vitriol towards that group was sickening. The divide started growing before that, but the furlough was the final straw. I left the group around then.

Al Czervik

I agree and that’s what gets me. I can understand everyones position and reasoning to be upset. The bidg problem is it’s us or nothing. We are currently seeing the fruits of nothing.

FlyyGuyy

I think system wide people have given up.

For some it's been 20 years on a bankruptcy contract. The twa guys can finally hold a left seat job right before they retire so they are trying to get something for themselves. The eagle flows got screwed for 10-20 years. The pdt and PSA newer flows have never known any better. The legacy AA guys I don't know that the deal is exactly. Maybe they are just used to having a garbage contract? Or maybe APA has no idea how to lead.

There's at least 5 "groups" here. No unity.

Our Union in the future whoever it might be branded needs to figure out a way to bring us all together. Like hire a pr firm or something to find a scheme to unify at least 4/5 groups.

I don't think we will have a contract to vote on for at least 3 years. Certainly not a contract with signing at least.

FlyGuy2021

Dont forget to add the 2020 furloughs as a new "group". Although they all got paid and most ended up in a pretty good spot with minimal harm down, they all saw that the union and +50% of the pilot group didn't give a crap about them. There were guys picking up open time and premium all the time when we had pilots on furlough (this was before the big bailout when we had pilots really not getting paid). That's a great way to disenfranchise the most junior people very quickly.