AA Regional LCAs Make More than AA 777 CAs
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It’s almost as if APA should have taken the WO MECs more seriously when they wanted to engage in talks about seniority numbers…
Imagine these kind of raises spread across a pilot group of 18,000+. Not just the 4,000 driving 50-76 seat airplanes.
Imagine these kind of raises spread across a pilot group of 18,000+. Not just the 4,000 driving 50-76 seat airplanes.
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… raise.
There is little to no job security at WO. It’s a temporary band-aid. I would never base a long term decision based on this. I’m shipping out, my drastic pay cut is right around the corner. I’ll take it and smile. When a 900 can be flown for 1/2 price… at mainline, how would you think there is any long term security in being with a WO. Be happy that yes, it really leads you to question your union’s ability to work in your best interest ( ie. QOL/ pay rates at AA). From the outside looking it, AA is overdue for some significant contract adjustments. ( ie. WO to AA should be an improvement).
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Actually now is the time to talk about it, if they had stapled them in the past the money wouldn’t be on the table. The ship has never already sailed.
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Well, a year 3 FO at AA easily makes what year 20 CA at WO unless you pick up all the OT you can find and are a LCA. 213/hr is not bad for a regional CA but it's still way below legacy rates, especially with their work rules and retirement (or lack of to be more accurate).
It's a good deal for their LCAs and lifers but doubt it really curbs attrition. LCCs etc still pay better.
It's a good deal for their LCAs and lifers but doubt it really curbs attrition. LCCs etc still pay better.
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They're granting those kinds of raises for the sole purpose of preserving both their hub n' spoke business model, and the FFD outsourcing that makes it lucrative. The whole point is to AVOID bringing it in house... that's not up to the union.
The company (not any union) could have brought it in house at the drop of a hat any time they wanted to. They don't.
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They're granting those kinds of raises for the sole purpose of preserving both their hub n' spoke business model, and the FFD outsourcing that makes it lucrative. The whole point is to AVOID bringing it in house... that's not up to the union.
The company (not any union) could have brought it in house at the drop of a hat any time they wanted to. They don't.
The company (not any union) could have brought it in house at the drop of a hat any time they wanted to. They don't.
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Now I think that path is much less clear than it was just a short time ago. But to sort of sum all this up… APA told the WO MECs they weren’t supportive of working with them on seniority numbers. A permanent solution with long term benefits for all. And then this happens. And now you’re dealing with 3 separate properties who are all much less incentivized to go down the seniority numbers path now. APA has been almost sickeningly short-sighted in all of this.
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