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Old 07-01-2022, 12:51 PM
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I don't know why you guys insist on setting the record straight - I figured the OP's sentiment might be good for at least a couple of free beers on the road, and you're ruining it!
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Old 07-01-2022, 03:58 PM
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I don't know why you guys insist on setting the record straight - I figured the OP's sentiment might be good for at least a couple of free beers on the road, and you're ruining it!
Agreed. The OP makes a complentary post about how we are all raising the bar for each other and some still come in here to somehow make the outlook "glass half empty." We are headed in the right direction but not there yet. I'm convinced even if we get an industry leading contract or something close people will still wank.
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Old 07-01-2022, 09:27 PM
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APA Negotiating Commitee didn’t do a thing. They’re too busy picking up premium. AA management pulled a typical slimball move by bypassing the union and going directly to the pilot group. That is NOT negotiating in good faith and yet another example of what this management team thinks of the AA pilot.
well hell, I hate to hear it. It’s really sad if this non NC involved “offer” is in bad faith. Even more sad that it’s all it took to throw our NC for a loop and stop all roadshows since y’all’s appears to have much more total value. Crazy times indeed
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Old 07-02-2022, 12:57 AM
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As a UAL guy, I was dismayed by the turd our negotiating committee sent us. Your new proposal caused out NC to insert a desperately needed spine and suspend all roadshows. They have effectively said that they know the TA is a bust, and are needing to start over. The thousands of line Pilot emails, calls, and overwhelming disgust wouldn’t get these outta touch fools to do an about face, but your announcement did! Let’s keep the upward pattern bargaining pressure, my friends!
But wait, I was told, by VERY reliable sources, that if we only changed the name above the door to ALPA, that it would rain gumdrops and cash, and that our next contract would include free Disney cruises annually. Oh, that and we would surely be able to talk ALPA national into lowering dues, y’know, because we’re such a big and important pilot group, and all that. My reality is shattered.
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Old 07-02-2022, 07:38 AM
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LOL!! One of the few posts here on APC that I actually chuckled all the way through. Well played, sir.
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Old 07-02-2022, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 View Post
But wait, I was told, by VERY reliable sources, that if we only changed the name above the door to ALPA, that it would rain gumdrops and cash, and that our next contract would include free Disney cruises annually. Oh, that and we would surely be able to talk ALPA national into lowering dues, y’know, because we’re such a big and important pilot group, and all that. My reality is shattered.
well deserved nut punch. But, ALPA national resources and access to legislators and the ability to have an impact on lawmakers who control issues on a national scale isn’t the same as individual MEC’s who drop the ball and negotiate a turd of a contract. I still understand the value of what ALPA can provide, while still holding my reps accountable. But yes, your post made me chuckle too.
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