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Old 07-18-2022, 11:36 AM
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This is from PSA -

“FAA certification process to retrofit the Main Cabin of our entire CRJ 900 fleet to seat either 79 or 80 passengers safely and comfortably, an addition of three to four seats. This modification process will allow American Airlines to connect even more customers from small- and medium-size communities across the country to its expansive global network through the important regional feed we provide into hubs.

The retrofit project will be completed at our facility in Dayton, Ohio. PSA will pull two lines of CRJ 900 NextGen aircraft out of service at a time between mid-August and November to complete the modification, and one line of CRJ 900 Atmosphere aircraft between March and June 2023. We expect the retrofit to take three days for the CRJ 900 NextGen aircraft and up to 10 days for the CRJ 900 Atmosphere aircraft. We do not anticipate any impact to our schedule because of these changes.

With these modifications, all 73 of PSA’s CRJ 900 aircraft, which currently have 76 seats, will now offer 12 First Class seats and 20 Main Cabin Extra seats. There will be 48 Main Cabin seats on the entire fleet. However, 35 aircraft will be equipped with a seat blocking device on one seat to accommodate only 47 Main Cabin seats to remain in line with American’s scope provisions. The seat blocking device will be placed on the right-side window seat in the last row.”

Was there scope clause given up? Thought the cap was 76 seats for the regional jets with AA
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Old 07-18-2022, 11:53 AM
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Mesa had more seats in 900s on AWA side that got grandfathered.
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Old 07-18-2022, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UPTme View Post
Mesa had more seats in 900s on AWA side that got grandfathered.
how many?

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Some Mesa AE CRJ9 are 79 and some are 76
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:29 PM
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What’s up with that? I thought scope clause limited seats to 76 at AA regionals.

Are we seeing the beginning steps for a merge of all AA WOs into American Mainline?
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Originally Posted by NoSIDsNoSTARs View Post
What’s up with that? I thought scope clause limited seats to 76 at AA regionals.

Are we seeing the beginning steps for a merge of all AA WOs into American Mainline?
No, see above. A certain small amount are grandfathered in front AWA.
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Here's how our current contracts defines a Commuter Aircraft. I don't think this is as big of a deal as some are making it out to be. Notice the last sentence...

The term "Commuter Aircraft" means aircraft (jet or turboprop) that (a) have a maximum of seventy-six (76) seats (as operated for the Company) and (b) are not certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight (MTOW) of more than 86,000 pounds. If an aircraft otherwise meeting the conditions in the preceding sentence is being operated for the Company and is recertified in the United States with a MTOW of greater than 86,000, said aircraft shall remain a Commuter Aircraft so long as it continues to operate for the Company at a MTOW of no more than 86,000 pounds. The existing seventy-six (76) CRJ 900 and E175 aircraft operated on behalf of US Airways, Inc. as of January 7, 2013, are grandfathered as to the seat limitation, and they and their replacements may be operated with seventy-nine (79) and eighty (80) seats, respectively.
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Old 07-18-2022, 03:09 PM
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“Seat blocking device?” I’ve sat next to a lot of those on my commutes.
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My question is that if “technically” the grandfathered planes could have been filled to 80 seats all along, why haven’t they been?
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My question is that if “technically” the grandfathered planes could have been filled to 80 seats all along, why haven’t they been?
Why did they wait 20+ years to add seats to the 737? Why not add a few seats? Demand is up and they can now carry a few more folks. Doesn't change anything at the end of the day.

Perhaps they want to get it done before the new JCBA.. I doubt the new JCBA will have any USAirways stuff in it.
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