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Old 11-15-2022, 07:13 AM
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Money money money...

https://piedmont-airlines.com/2022/11/piedmont-airlines-offers-limited-time-100000-up-front-bonus-for-experience-pilots/
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:31 AM
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Kinda hard to make Captains the old fashioned way of you have no Captains for your FOs to fly with.


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Kinda hard to make Captains the old fashioned way of you have no Captains for your FOs to fly with.


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They have lost a ton of FOs and allot of the FOs are talking 2.5 years to get the 1000 hours to upgrade... So they will throw money at the problem.. plus the captains are still leaving despite the flow bonus and pay... Since in the training department are electing to stay.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:07 AM
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They have lost a ton of FOs and allot of the FOs are talking 2.5 years to get the 1000 hours to upgrade... So they will throw money at the problem.. plus the captains are still leaving despite the flow bonus and pay... Since in the training department are electing to stay.
FOs are hitting 750hrs and bidding reserve to mike the paycheck with less BS.

The training department announced it is kicking a large % of the instructor group back to be line pilots and taking away their instructor pay/schedule/perks. LCAs still haven’t been paid for work they’ve been doing since June and the company didn’t pay a bunch of pilots or flight attendants because the competent person who worked in payroll quit… and company wonders why people are still leaving.
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Envoy is doing the same thing. Current bonuses expire for new hires after December 31st. This is another stab by AAG at trying to keep their regionals staffed with captains. It has a two year hook. And all outside the CBA.
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Old 11-16-2022, 08:25 AM
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Well. The cat is out of the bag.

The number of seats on an airplane clearly does not determine pay rates.
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Old 11-16-2022, 01:36 PM
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Piedmont is probably folding within a year anyway so it'll all be moot.
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Piedmont is probably folding within a year anyway so it'll all be moot.
https://simpleflying.com/american-ai...signing-bonus/

it ain’t just Piedmont.
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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB View Post
Well. The cat is out of the bag.

The number of seats on an airplane clearly does not determine pay rates.
During a transitionary period of desperation, no.


Longer term... I think they kind of need to make some money eventually. The only legacy which I recall embracing the idea that regional feed should operate at a loss to feed the hub went BK several times, and got acquired.
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Yes, I know. But when they fold, that money wont be paid out anyway. They're just putting a bandaid on it for now. PSA "new base" in DFW, aka be Envoy. They'll cover PHL when PDT goes away and they'll merge right into Envoy. Just me spitballing, but definitely not too far off the mark probably.
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