Close Call at JFK
01-20-2023, 06:02 AM
#102
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
"Fleet Harmonization" ...
Do we have that many idiots that cannot transition from one airplane to another?
"Back when I was on the panel..."
Do we have that many idiots that cannot transition from one airplane to another?
"Back when I was on the panel..."
01-20-2023, 06:22 AM
#103
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
The first officer on American Airlines Flight 106, which was involved in a runway incursion Friday night at Kennedy International Airport, was flying her first flight with new cockpit procedures, a source said.
“She has all this data to analyze and input, plus she has a new task on top of all that,” the source said. “She was overwhelmed.”
Although the first officer was experienced on the Boeing 737, “she was brand new in that airplane,” said the source. “She had just read the 35-page bulletin that changes procedures.”
“She has all this data to analyze and input, plus she has a new task on top of all that,” the source said. “She was overwhelmed.”
Although the first officer was experienced on the Boeing 737, “she was brand new in that airplane,” said the source. “She had just read the 35-page bulletin that changes procedures.”
As far as I’m concerned, all three crew members were at fault!
Whatever happened to that “ I’m in the Green/Yellow/Red” BS they always cover every recurrent?
01-20-2023, 06:24 AM
#104
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Every check list change requires in person training?
With that said, though, wholesale, sweeping changes to all phases of the operation - flows, callouts, checklists - all implemented on a switchover date - is a terrible way to accomplish the changes. They should have been phased in over time.
01-20-2023, 09:00 AM
#105
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Originally Posted by DTswiss1100
Why was the first officer singled out by this unnamed source, what a jerk off! This makes all first officer seem more “incompetent” (according to some of our captains here and the public) than we already are!
As far as I’m concerned, all three crew members were at fault!
Whatever happened to that “ I’m in the Green/Yellow/Red” BS they always cover every recurrent?
As far as I’m concerned, all three crew members were at fault!
Whatever happened to that “ I’m in the Green/Yellow/Red” BS they always cover every recurrent?
01-20-2023, 10:20 AM
#107
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Originally Posted by DTswiss1100
Why was the first officer singled out by this unnamed source, what a jerk off! This makes all first officer seem more “incompetent” (according to some of our captains here and the public) than we already are!
As far as I’m concerned, all three crew members were at fault!
Whatever happened to that “ I’m in the Green/Yellow/Red” BS they always cover every recurrent?
As far as I’m concerned, all three crew members were at fault!
Whatever happened to that “ I’m in the Green/Yellow/Red” BS they always cover every recurrent?
01-20-2023, 11:01 AM
#108
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Originally Posted by Upntheair27
exactly! Guess who wasn't taxiing the airplane? The FO
01-20-2023, 11:02 AM
#109
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Originally Posted by Dobbs18
apparently….and we have only 4 types at this point. How often do these knuckleheads in Dallas think we are going to be “switching” aircraft?
01-20-2023, 11:28 AM
#110
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Originally Posted by Dobbs18
apparently….and we have only 4 types at this point. How often do these knuckleheads in Dallas think we are going to be “switching” aircraft?
Someone else will get promoted by changing it back in a few years.
Or, to summarize, pretty much the military.
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