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aa73 01-15-2023 11:09 AM

Close Call at JFK
 
https://viewfromthewing.com/near-dis...t-in-new-york/

Wonder if the new procedures had anything to do with it. Glad nobody was hurt!

DTswiss1100 01-15-2023 11:13 AM

…exactly what I was thinking! narrow body pilot here so I’m not sure if they had changes in their manuals!

Spike Knock 01-15-2023 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 3571998)
https://viewfromthewing.com/near-dis...t-in-new-york/

Wonder if the new procedures had anything to do with it. Glad nobody was hurt!

What is the new procedure?

Dobbs18 01-15-2023 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 3571998)
https://viewfromthewing.com/near-disaster-as-american-airlines-plane-passes-in-front-of-departing-delta-jet-in-new-york/ Wonder if the new procedures had anything to do with it. Glad nobody was hurt!

based on the audio tapes that I heard they(AA 777) went the wrong way but it's hard to draw conclusions from partial information...either way it was a scary close call...lots of ASAPs being filled out I'm sure, and a phone conversation or 2 I'm sure.

sanicom3205 01-15-2023 01:35 PM

The cAAptain was probably busy listening to make sure the FO was making a good PA… Ya know, no “please” in his “prepare for takeoff” or any funny business like that. Hard to trust these guys. Important stuff that got in the way of something small like crossing a runway. Hopefully the CVR caught him briefing the taxi right, that taxi brief is essentially your clearance anyway, important stuff

Round Luggage 01-15-2023 02:02 PM

Sure they will need to dig into this to see what we can learn but the news is really sensationalizing this. They are reporting 1000 ft separation which produces a 3000 foot accelate-stop so mathematically they had the power up for a few seconds before a low speed abort. 🥱 system works.

ImSoSuss 01-15-2023 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by DTswiss1100 (Post 3572000)
…exactly what I was thinking! narrow body pilot here so I’m not sure if they had changes in their manuals!

Yes, they had changes. The difference is that unlike us NB guys being able to get several repetitions a day of the new procedures, they would be lucky to get several repetitions in a month. Could have been at least one of the crew's member first flight since the new procedures for all we know. If so that cockpit was definitely in the Yellow.

drywhitetoast 01-15-2023 03:22 PM

https://youtu.be/9N1gDSZJ5s0
Pretty good explanation of what happened.

Bo Darville 01-15-2023 04:00 PM

Delta guy here. Do AA 777s (or any of your fleet) have RAAS?

Flown one jet in the past that had it…nice SA tool.

-Bo

TiredSoul 01-15-2023 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 3572141)
https://youtu.be/9N1gDSZJ5s0
Pretty good explanation of what happened.

Next video is better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nsFIHKkN2oU


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