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Plabelover 03-24-2023 07:10 PM

CA upgrade and WB
 
1) how long is the CA upgrade for a new hire at MIA and PHL?
2) hour long until upgrade to a WB? And what are the WB trips from MIA?

AllYourBaseAreB 03-24-2023 08:02 PM

1- just over 3 years for both bases. What that means for someone hired today? Hard to say. It will probably get quicker for a year or two then the trend will reverse.

2- 5 years to WB FO. MIA does EZE, GRU, GIG, SCL, BCN, LHR, LAX, CLT, HAV in April

Plabelover 03-25-2023 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3613277)
1- just over 3 years for both bases. What that means for someone hired today? Hard to say. It will probably get quicker for a year or two then the trend will reverse.

2- 5 years to WB FO. MIA does EZE, GRU, GIG, SCL, BCN, LHR, LAX, CLT, HAV in April

Thank you!!

Gators42 03-25-2023 06:01 AM

Assuming senior enough to barely hold either NB CA or WB FO in MIA which would be preferred. Or would sitting at 17% as a NB FO offer a better quality of life? Caveats are living in Ft. Lauderdale with middle school kids.

AllYourBaseAreB 03-25-2023 06:03 AM

If you like your kids and don’t need the money, I’d stay as an FO

TallFlyer 03-27-2023 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Gators42 (Post 3613408)
Assuming senior enough to barely hold either NB CA or WB FO in MIA which would be preferred. Or would sitting at 17% as a NB FO offer a better quality of life? Caveats are living in Ft. Lauderdale with middle school kids.

I'm not a SoFL guy, but living in base on SC hasn't been bad for me (CLT FO, one year on property), I'm regularly scoring extra days off and half days at home (blocked in at 10AM today, rest of the day off) and may chose to keep this up for a while.

I also have a friend who upgraded to the Bus just after Covid who's opting to bid 777 FO in base, probably just to get away from the narrowbody world.

Honestly, it depends on what game you like to play, certainly senior FOs can make money, but I haven't mastered that alchemy yet. I've been told that the WB flying is a like a whole other airline, and if you live in FLL you're certainly close enough to MIA to make it drivable. If it were me I'd probably lean that direction.

fussydutchman 03-27-2023 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3613249)
1) how long is the CA upgrade for a new hire at MIA and PHL?
2) hour long until upgrade to a WB? And what are the WB trips from MIA?

When do you expect to start at AA? Actually, when do you expect to get your commercial ASEL?

AAhole 03-27-2023 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 3614722)
I'm not a SoFL guy, but living in base on SC hasn't been bad for me (CLT FO, one year on property), I'm regularly scoring extra days off and half days at home (blocked in at 10AM today, rest of the day off) and may chose to keep this up for a while.

I also have a friend who upgraded to the Bus just after Covid who's opting to bid 777 FO in base, probably just to get away from the narrowbody world.

Honestly, it depends on what game you like to play, certainly senior FOs can make money, but I haven't mastered that alchemy yet. I've been told that the WB flying is a like a whole other airline, and if you live in FLL you're certainly close enough to MIA to make it drivable. If it were me I'd probably lean that direction.

Crazy how many people obsess about WB Positions. Flying up and down the east coast NB is soo easy... This is a regional airline after all . The obsession is weird.

dwightkschrute 03-28-2023 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by AAhole (Post 3614981)
Crazy how many people obsess about WB Positions. Flying up and down the east coast NB is soo easy... This is a regional airline after all . The obsession is weird.

I upgraded last year and it’s been great so far. It’s nice to talk to people my own age for once and if you’re chill, the whole trip is chill and relaxing, even when issues arise. The only thing that sucks are the junior schedules but I knew that going into it.

ImSoSuss 03-28-2023 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Gators42 (Post 3613408)
Assuming senior enough to barely hold either NB CA or WB FO in MIA which would be preferred. Or would sitting at 17% as a NB FO offer a better quality of life? Caveats are living in Ft. Lauderdale with middle school kids.

You will be able to upgrade long before holding WB FO.


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